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Simon Wessely Didn't Want His e-Mail On A Blog - Here It Is on Hole Ousia

Discussion in 'Other health news and research' started by Melanie, Jul 14, 2018.

  1. MSEsperanza

    MSEsperanza Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    @Hole Ousia, speaking of transparency and ethics – sink‘s links to the Science Media Centre also deserve attention IMO.

    * recommendations for a new function at the Science Media Centre (2010) Bithell
    https://www.s4me.info/forums/health-news-and-research-unrelated-to-me-cfs.29

    * Issues reported about the Science Media Centre (SMC), not just ME-related
    https://www.s4me.info/posts/56263/

    * Blog: David Tuller, "Trial By Error: My Questions for the Science Media Centre"
    https://www.s4me.info/posts/26486/

    * Forward-ME Group Letter to the Science Media Centre, April 2018
    https://www.s4me.info/posts/59731/
     
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  2. Hole Ousia

    Hole Ousia Established Member

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    Yep, the "Science Media Centre" fails to provide meaningful transparency of potential competing interests. There is no way to establish how much of the £42 million that the pharmaceutical industry pays each year to UK doctors and academics may go to the Science Media Centre experts.

    I wrote this post about this not so long ago: https://holeousia.com/2018/02/25/science-media-centre/
     
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    Hole Ousia Established Member

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    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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  5. Esther12

    Esther12 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    edit: Wessely complained the claim that Nick Hodgson was his son in law is a false rumor about him promoted on social media... seems someone misunderstood one of his tweets.
    https://twitter.com/user/status/1044500923521933312
     
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  6. Sasha

    Sasha Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Yep.
     
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    The comic is cool!
     
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    It's just missing the Hans Eysenck warning on the cigarette pack saying smoking doesn't cause cancer.
     
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  12. JohnTheJack

    JohnTheJack Moderator Staff Member

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    Interesting, Peter.
    I have also written on SMC's handling of COIs.
    https://johnthejack.com/2017/10/20/a-response-to-fiona-fox/

    I'm coming late to this thread, but I find the bit about Wessely amusing. I've had a couple of (courteous) email exchanges with him. I did in fact say right from the start that I would make them public. The second one came after a break of some time and in it he got a bit angry and had a go at me for the way the first exchange had been used by someone else to be less than complimentary about him. I pointed out to him I'd said I'd make the exchange public and what people do with it then is beyond my control. He then returned to his usual perky tone. Always best to stand up to a certain type of person.
     
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  13. Barry

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    Another one with a "very very large brain", which I suspect may be a Chinese euphemism (possibly impromptu) for an extremely big head.
     
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  14. Luther Blissett

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    I find it interesting that the SMC considers itself with the mainstream, as if it has nothing to do with creating and maintaining the very thing it considers itself inside of.

    Itself and the journalists it works with are part of the manufacturing of what is considered mainstream and what is considered outside. What is considered important and what is not.

    It reminded me of an anecdote about the difference between professionals and non-professionals.

    Disciplined Minds - Jeff Schmidt.

    How can we expect internal change to come from institutions where people tend to think and agree with each other? In the reply the SMC say

    But why would the policies change without outside intervention? Why would a declaration of interests policy change when the mainstream have already decided on one, and they seem to agree with each other?
     
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  15. Jonathan Edwards

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    Big fleas have little fleas upon their backs to bite 'em,
    And little fleas have lesser fleas, and so, ad infinitum.
    And the great fleas, themselves, in turn, have greater fleas to go on;
    While these again have greater still, and greater still, and so on.
     
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    erm......thrice replicated peer reviewed double blinded placebo controlled papers to show this - or it probably isn't a real thing ;)
     
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    True classic !
     
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