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Prescribing for patients with chronic fatigue syndrome, by Bhatti & Bhatti, Feb 2019

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS news' started by MeSci, Feb 28, 2019.

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  1. MeSci

    MeSci Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    February 2019, pp 29-33

    Date: February 20, 2019

    URL: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/psb.1741

    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/psb.1741

    Prescribing for patients with chronic fatigue syndrome
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    Shabir Bhatti(1), Qasid Ahmad Bhatti(2)
    1 Bermondsey, London, United Kingdom
    2 Charles University, Prague, Czech Republic

    Abstract

    Chronic fatigue syndrome, also known as myalgic encephalomyelitis, can be difficult to both diagnose and treat, but there are many prescribed medications that can help with specific symptoms and co‐morbidities..

    This article provides a guide to treatment in primary care.

    Article can be found at 2nd link. Continues to recommend CBT & GET.
     
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  2. NelliePledge

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    Who are these people?
     
    NelliePledge, Feb 28, 2019
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    Looks like one is a London doctor. I think they have just swallowed the NICE guidelines whole.
     
    Trish, Feb 28, 2019
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  4. NelliePledge

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    Yes the article would have done better as one sentence - get a copy of the MEAssociation Purple Book

    I notice they were fuzzy about prescribing Tricyclics on top of SSRIs which is unhelpful. The MEA wording on this is much stronger in showing it is a bad idea.
     
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    We don't know the cause and are unlikely to find a cure until we do... that doesn't sound like something that should lead in to their recommendation of "strong reassurance".
     
    Esther12, Feb 28, 2019
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    Is that not the absolute antithesis of what was said in about 1989 when it was decided that aetiology was unimportant and time should not be wasted searching for it.
     
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  7. Jonathan Edwards

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    The Care Quality Commission has a page on 'Dr Shabir Bhatti'

    Dr Shabir Bhatti Inadequate
    Also known as Bermondsey Spa Medical Practice
    We are carrying out checks at Dr Shabir Bhatti. We will publish a report when our check is complete.


    When it comes to the politics of ME, you couldn't make it up really, could you?
     
    Jonathan Edwards, Feb 28, 2019
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    kilfinnan, Feb 28, 2019
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  9. Snow Leopard

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    Yet another narrative review recommending SSRIs, this one notably does not mention any references. The reason for the lack of references is because all double blinded studies of SSRIs for CFS patients failed to show any benefit for any symptoms including depressive or anxiety symptoms.

    I don't know what the background of the authors is, but this study is making non evidence based claims.
     
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  10. NelliePledge

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    So presumably written by the year 5 medical student at Prague for some kind of assignment and they possibly thought having the (inadequate)GP on it would help with the gravitas :rofl:

    Do medics really get any credit for regurgitating material like this.

    @Russell Fleming maybe one to draw to attention of Dr Shepherd? If there’s maybe an opportunity to flag up the dubious approach to prescribing tricyclics SSRIs together.
     
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  11. Andy

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    Looks like the MEA want patients views rather than offering an opinion themselves.
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    https://www.facebook.com/meassociation/posts/2149756395082007
     
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    It is perhaps ironic that the journal 'Prescriber' is not actually for prescribers but for the pharmacists who dish out the prescriptions. Delusions of grandeur maybe?
    Actual prescribers will have never heard of Prescriber.
     
    Jonathan Edwards, Mar 1, 2019
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