Pilot study of a parent-based intervention for functional somatic symptoms in children 2024 Etkin et al

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  1. SNT Gatchaman

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    Headache, fatigue and muscle pain dominated, with GI disturbance, abdominal pain, POTS, dizziness/vertigo also highly represented.

    Note the drop-out rate: 17 families contacted researchers; 16 did treatment; 13 at 1 week post-intervention follow-up; 11 at 12 weeks follow-up, with 2 lost to follow-up. At early follow-up, 1 discontinued treatment because "child's symptoms improved", 2 "scheduling conflicts".

     
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    So scary all of this
     
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    Looking at the interventions, this seems to make some sense in terms of managing behavioral problems. Possibly, although this is all so generic that any LLM could do at least as good. But to think this can treat symptoms of illness is seriously delusional.

    And as usual the data are awful and do not support the value, but the intention is always to produce more research with similar methodologies, with same flaws and weaknesses and to go ahead and use it in practice anyway, while assessing the outcomes with the same weak, flawed and mostly useless uninterpretable methodologies. What a completely rotten and useless ideology.

    It's like they took the idea of the journey being more important than the destination, and just don't bother with the fact that no one applying this nonsense has ever reached any destination. It's all journey, always a novel trek, yet somehow always on the same trail, and all it does is loop back to the start.
     
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    or other nonspecific symptoms not attributable to a known biomedical disorder despite adequate evaluation,

    How do they know it is 'adequate'?

    All they can reasonably say is that current understanding and standard assessment techniques failed to find any significant relevant factors.

    Which is a very different (and much more honest) statement.
     
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    Use of the word ‘adequate’ reads to me that they believed full or detailed investigation was not necessary because they ‘knew’. Using the word adequate to me suggests that for research purposes this was not sufficient.
     
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