Physicians with long Covid confront a medical establishment eager to classify their illness as psychological (2022) Tuller

[Hoopoe]

I would love to see one of the psychobabblers try to explain how PEM is caused by thoughts and behaviours.

Probably they are psychobabblers because they don't even know what PEM is or spend no time trying to make their ideas coherent.

 

[Barry]

I could speculate about Gaffney’s motivations for entering this domain of debate, but irrespective of that, these hackneyed straw men arguments are so predictable and intellectually lazy. I don’t have much of a Twitter presence, but I hope someone with a more robust platform will dissect his response, because it deserves a logical lashing. View attachment 16814View attachment 16814

Wouldn't pyschosocial factors play a role in pretty much all illnesses and pretty much all of interactive living?

How is this vague statement in any concretely useful?

Of course for those who make such lame statements it's because they wish it to mean 'take your CBT/GET medicine and stop whining about the bio part.'

Again, using the phrase 'psychosocial factors' is a code for them but in reality (where the rest of live) it is a vague hand-wavy thing to say and can rightfully be applied quite broadly.

This. Simply this.
The elephant in the room

Yes. It's a candy floss statement ... masquerades as being a lot but in reality has no substance at all. Making a statement that can have relevance in one, misdirected context, but completely flawed in another, erroneous, intended context.

 

[Jaybee00]

Honestly, I felt that this article could have made a stronger linkage between “long Covid” and MECFS. It sort of stated that there is “Long Covid” and there is MECFS and sometimes Long Covid patients receive an MECFS diagnosis. Some statement that “Long Covid” patients with MECFS symptoms for six months can be diagnosed with MECFS” is needed IMO. In this way, you don’t lump the people with lung damage from Covid pneumonia in with Covid-triggered MECFS (I suppose this lung damage is also called “Long Covid”).

It’s going to be really bad (funding-wise) when people with Covid-triggered MECFS claim that they have a unique novel disease that is completely different from MECFS. There is going to be massive reinventing of the wheel and wasted funding.

 

[SNT Gatchaman]