Perrin Technique

[wigglethemouse]

I do wish the lymphatic system could be studied in detail in ME/CFS. I developed lymphedema when my ME became severe. I do know of others with ME who have lymphedema but it does not seem to be common.

When I looked a number of years ago there were very few specialists in this area and the tools they had to evaluate the lymphatic system seemed almost non-existent. So I'm not sure how a researcher would study lymphatic drainage. The specialist I consulted told me that the damage probably occured 10 years ago with cellulitis and only now was it appearing. Quite common to happen this way apparently.

I did try manual lymphatic drainage (not professional) but it just made me dizzy.

 

[Jonathan Edwards]

Can any science literate types please do an assessment of Perrins claims about the lymphatic system and ME (and long covid).

There isn't really anything to say. It is just pseudo medical make believe. A bit like saying that cod liver oil is good for lubricating your joints - about as plausible as watering plastic flowers making them grow.

 

[rvallee]

about as plausible as watering plastic flowers making them grow.

Oh, that nonsense. You clearly have to give them encouraging soothing talks expressing your confidence in their growth. How else would it work?!

 

[MrMagoo]

Oh, that nonsense. You clearly have to give them encouraging soothing talks expressing your confidence in their growth. How else would it work?!

If you say unkind things to them, they die!

 

[Sly Saint]

for those who want to read the full article
It’s the illness that has no cure. But this doctor believes he’s found the answer to chronic fatigue syndrome

for further info on his 'research' see
DR RAYMOND N PERRIN DO, PhD – Club Physio
Perrin Technique - NHS Research - The Robin Kiashek Clinics

I haven't dug out a link to the actual published research from 2017

 

[Sean]

Perrin thinks he has found the answer to every unexplained medical problem. It is gold standard woo.

 

[Eleanor]

The Irish Times has a plug for the Perrin technique today. Paywalled, archive link here (hope it works) https://archive.ph/2024.12.29-06211...could-i-not-stand-up-while-the-kettle-boiled/

"This therapy, which is recognised by the British NHS, posits that the primary cause of Long Covid (and chronic fatigue syndrome, or ME/CFS) is lymphatic and glymphatic system blockage. Some of it can be done at home following YouTube clips; it’s safe and at worst relaxing. I began gentle, daily self-massage routines for head, chest and back, immediately feeling tiny improvements; I was standing longer, breathing easier and sleeping deeper. I attended the Republic’s only Perrin practitioner, a physiotherapist, and slow, sustained progress followed. I’m now 80 per cent recovered – it’s not a quick fix but, crucially, a recent reinfection didn’t set me back."