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Oxidative stress caused by a dysregulated Wnt/β-catenin signalling pathway... abnormal placenta ... in pregnant mice with CFS, 2020, Zhao et al

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    Dolphin Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    https://www.cambridge.org/core/jour...gue-syndrome/732B77AB5F851B50AC2886C97DE5D7F2

    Oxidative stress caused by a dysregulated Wnt/β-catenin signalling pathway is involved in abnormal placenta formation in pregnant mice with chronic fatigue syndrome

     
    Dolphin, Oct 19, 2020
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    Pregnant mice with CFS? How do we know, did we ask the mice? :facepalm:
     
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    Why do they have to use the name CFS? Why not simply speak of exhausted mice or something like that?
     
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    You should see their answers to the Chalder Fatigue Questionnaire.
     
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    Setting aside the fundamental issue of no real animal model of CFS, I'm not sure that even this statement about prevalence of gynaecological issues and sexual dysfunction in CFS is true. The only epidemiological study on this I can recall was very flawed.
     
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    The CDC studies on this used the so-called empiric criteria which give a prevalence of 2.54%. I would give them the prize as the worst criteria, even worse than the Oxford criteria.
     
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    They never listen to patients so they have probably not noticed that mice can't use language.
     
    Mithriel, Oct 20, 2020
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