The Norwegian biology professor Kristian Gundersen has several times criticised ME-patients for criticising research. First time was last year where he defended PACE against its criticism and warned against ME-patients being listened to. @Jonathan Edwards wrote a response. Last week he defended a study on homosexuality and a theory from Stanford researchers on whether an algorithm can identify sexual orientation from pictures, a study which has been strongly criticised. Prof. Gundersen drew a parallell in the same text to ME-patients' attack on "the biggest study within the field (meaning PACE), because it implies the condition could be psychological". This was written as a debate article in the newspaper Morgenbladet - a wonderful newspaper with great feature articles on research. I hope some journalists there are starting to get curious. He got two replies regarding this: Synsing om syke google translate: strong opinions and little knowledge about patients All forskning er ikke like god google translate: All research is not equally good Today prof. Gundersen came with a reply himself: ME-miljøene er et skrekkens eksempel over hele verden googel translation: The ME environments are a world wide horror example He continues to defend PACE, defends Ketil Brurberg from the Cochrane review group, attacks prof. Coyne and the Journal of Health Psychology, claims that ME-patients are torpedoing projects which could confirm PACE and that they are bullying researchers out of the field. - In the long run, the ME/CFS activists make the patients a disservice. In order to proceed with research on ME/CFS, we must use the science toolbox. You can't reach true knowledge on activism.