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Knowledge development post-COVID-19
by NordForsk

The purpose of this policy paper is to summarise the key scientific findings on PCC and the relevant research needs that have been identified in the project “Knowledge development post-COVID” initiated by the Nordic Council of Ministers in accordance with the policy priorities of the Nordic Council.

Knowledge gaps related to PCC and lessons learnt for developing preparedness for future pandemics and strengthening health resilience are discussed in a Nordic context. Nordic opportunities for collaboration within PCC research, research funding, and policy development are also highlighted.

https://www.nordforsk.org/2025/knowledge-development-post-covid-19
 
Article in a local newspaper about a severely ill pwME, and about her not getting the help she needs at home, not even with food or basic hygiene.

ME-sjuka Jessika: ”Jag ligger här och sakta dör"
https://www.sttidningen.se/nyheter/...akta-dor.a35d1323-9fa9-4da4-97d8-3a37ff9d02e3
ST-tidningen has published a disgusting opinion piece/comment on the article about Jessika today, by an anonymous GP who falsely frames ME as psychiatric :wtf::mad::sick:

Can be upsetting/triggering for those of us who have been subjected to medical gaslighting and other kinds of medical harm.

ME orsakar enormt lidande men saknar definition
https://www.sttidningen.se/asikt/vi...-kvinnor.5cab967d-7692-41c2-b4a3-3bf96ee62ebe

Archived version (to avoid giving ST-tidningen traffic/clicks):
https://archive.is/1I3lX
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ME causes huge suffering but lacks definition

Opinion Why some individuals suffer from this condition surely has as many answers as those affected, writes a GP in STO.

Reaction to the article ‘ME sufferer Jessika: “I'm lying here slowly dying”’.

I work as a general practitioner in STO and after reading the article about ME sufferer Jessika, I would like to contribute with a different view on ME/CFS. There is enormous suffering but there is no discrete disease process or clear definition of what ME/CFS is.

The ME movement strongly emphasises that the WHO has defined the condition as neurological. However, there is no evidence that ME/CFS falls within the scope of neurological diseases such as multiple sclerosis or Parkinson's disease. The WHO introduced the diagnosis back in the 1960s, initially hypothesising that it was a neurological condition. This is a historical mistake that has not been corrected. Since then, medical developments have progressed at a rapid pace. Advanced testing, X-rays and other ways to objectively measure disease processes are now available. In people with ME/CFS, no measurable abnormalities are found.

In psychiatric conditions, there are no measurable biological abnormalities. Of course, this does not mean that psychiatric conditions do not exist. For ME/CFS, parallels can be drawn with other psychiatric disorders where the individual is stuck in behaviours that cause them great suffering. Examples include anorexia, obsessive-compulsive disorder and phobia. I think few would argue with interventions that help these individuals continue to engage in their pathological behaviours. They need help and support to reverse them.

Suffering is very real, but why some individuals suffer from this condition surely has as many answers as the sufferers. Life happens to us and we can be left feeling helpless and unable to cope with life's commitments. Therapeutic help is available. However, it will never be possible without the person's own will to change. This also applies to the other psychiatric conditions I mentioned above.

A common accusation against primary care is that we lack knowledge about ME/CFS, but this is not true. What is missing are treatment guidelines from our governing medical authorities. There is no decision by our medical authorities to accept ME/CFS as a psychiatric conditions and from there take the step to formulate treatment guidelines. Right now these patients are falling through the cracks. There are no neurology clinics that accept these patients even though the condition is currently classified under neurological conditions. Strangely enough, it is still usually primary care that is criticised for inadequate care. What primary care can offer is therapeutic help and help via physiotherapists and occupational therapists. This is not accepted by the ME movement, which unfortunately perpetuates a non-health-promoting approach among sufferers.

I sincerely hope that we will find a way forward. That those affected find the strength to get out of this suffering and live their lives again.

Greetings

A general practitioner in STO
I desperately wish someone like Ola Didrik Saugstad would write a very strong reply to the newspaper... I wish we had knowledgeable doctors and skillful patient organisations in Sweden who had the backbone, courage and willingness to stand up for us -- the severely ill in particular -- and to counter dangerous and harmful disinformation and opinion pieces like this one.

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ST-tidningen has published a disgusting opinion piece/comment on the article about Jessika today, by an anonymous GP who falsely frames ME as psychiatric :wtf::mad::sick:
@MittEremltage shares her thoughts on today's vile opinion piece:

Ett ideologiskt ställningstagande snarare än okunskap
https://mitteremitage.wordpress.com...ogiskt-stallningstagande-snarare-an-okunskap/
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An ideological position rather than ignorance

A while ago, the Stenungsund newspaper (ST) published an article about a person with severe ME. She spoke openly about her difficult situation under her full name. In response, a doctor has now chosen to write an anonymous opinion piece full of disinformation and belittling phrases about ME.

Despite its nastiness (or perhaps because of it), the article is a prime example of why it is so problematic to talk about the lack of care for ME sufferers being due to ignorance. Because the doctor in the article shows clear signs of contempt for knowledge and of having deliberately opted out of current biomedical research.

I would therefore like to say that the disastrous content of the opinion piece is the consequence of an ideological position rather than ignorance,

The doctor writes, among other things, that ME is about us sick people not being able to cope with life's difficulties, that we are stuck in pathological behaviours that we cannot get out of, that we have to want to get well in order to do so, and that the lack of objective findings shows that ME is a psychiatric illness that can be treated with talk therapy and physiotherapy.

Some quotes from the article: [...]

That article follows the template of how the BPS lobby usually argues to the letter.

The doctor:
  • labels ME as psychological on the basis that there are currently no methods for measuring biological abnormalities in primary care

  • avoids mentioning the research that exists on biological abnormalities in ME and the main symptom, exertion-triggered exacerbation of symptoms (PEM)

  • makes remarkable and speculative claims about the cause of ME and about treatment without referring to a single source

  • blames ME sufferers for protesting against inadequate care and claims that they are making themselves sicker
The CDC, which is the central authority in the United States for the control and prevention of disease in the community, writes the following about ME in its information for health professionals:

‘Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME/CFS) is a chronic, life-altering disease that affects many organ systems. It goes far beyond ‘being tired’ and profoundly affects patients' quality of life and abilities. Patients often experience a significant decline in physical and mental functioning at some point during their illness.’ (CDC)

‘ME/CFS is a biological disease, not a mental disorder. Patients neither simulate nor seek disease gain. Patients have multiple pathophysiological changes affecting several different organ systems. So far, none of the changes are sensitive or specific enough to be used for diagnosis. Alterations have been reported in the immune system, energy metabolism, neuroendocrine system, autonomic nervous system, gastrointestinal system, and others.’ (CDC)

‘Caregivers need to be aware that the functional capacity of their patients can be seriously impaired if they exceed their individual capacity limit. In general, patients should not push themselves beyond their capabilities as this may worsen their symptoms and trigger PEM.’ (CDC)

‘Best practice: prevent harm! In the past, patients have been advised to increase their activity without any precautions around PEM. However, studies have shown a lowered anaerobic threshold in patients with ME/CFS, suggesting impaired aerobic energy metabolism. Thus, increased activity may be harmful if it leads to PEM.’ (CDC)

There is a difference in the content of the opinion piece, so say the least. The difference between information and disinformation.

Now, I think some of you are going to ask me to write a reply to the doctor in ST, but I can already say that I will not do that. For today, I have chosen to focus my energy on internal training. To clarify the difference between ignorance and ideologically coloured cherry picking.

I want to show that we can learn to see the ideology behind things that sound like ignorance and pure nonsense. And thus emphasise that this needs to be addressed in a completely different way than if we label it as ignorance.

If you want to read the article without generating clicks, there is an archived version [here].

For those who do not know what the BPS lobby is, and want to understand the context in which this ideology I am talking about has emerged, I recommend listening or reading my podcast Maran's second season [To compilation post].
 
10.5 In conclusion, on the validity of the study
The basic assumption about what causes PEM/PESE thus influences the choice of study population and outcome measures, which in turn systematically affects study results and perceptions of the generalizability of the results, i.e. the validity of the study. In this way, i.e. through methodologically substandard research, the questioning and minimizing attitude that exists towards the diagnoses ME, post-covid and the exercise-induced symptom worsening PEM/PESE is maintained.

They are calling it out! And they show examples of poor research.
 
The Swedish Covid Association recently published a guide/checklist for people who are considering taking part in a research study. Know your rights + some good questions to ask before you decide.

https://covidforeningen.se/checklista-delta-i-studie/
This isn’t going to stop the BPS lobby’s lies. They already lie about risks in their ethics applications.

Hopefully it will lead to more awareness emong patients.
 
They weaponize the "no abnormalities" argument, though.

It's not about whether the statement is true or not -- it's about how it is being used against us in bad faith, including to deny us even the most basic sort of medical care or tests.

For example, for me personally it meant that it took more than 10 years(!) before anyone agreed to measure my blood pressure or even do a standard basic blood test. And when they finally did, the results showed abnormalities that needed to be investigated further, including some that could also be treated.
 
@mango good point. They use an ME/CFS diagnosis to predict no findings.

And they also use it as a proof that ME/CFS has to be psychological. That’s like saying «All grass is green. The car is green, therefore, the car is grass.»

And it doesn’t account for potential future findings.
 
The no abnormalities argument is misused but I think it would be less weaponised if advocacy groups and charities did not constantly claim abnormalities are known when they are not.

I think the example of congenital inability to feel pain is quite interesting in this respect. It is perhaps the perfect example of a 'physical, neurological' illness where absolutely nothing could be found - at least until the person had smashed their joints to pieces and burned bits of their fingers off. The only pathology consists of an invisible gene that makes bits of RNA that hide away in the nucleus of certain nerve cells. Otherwise everything is completely normal.
 
Yeah, sure. Blame the patient organisations... :rolleyes:

That's not what reality looks like, though. They weaponize anything and everything against us, no matter what the advocacy groups do or don't do.

Even things like asking for one's legal patient rights to be respected (eg the right to not be harmed or discriminated against, and the right to informed consent) are currently being used to deny us care and support/help.
 
The no abnormalities argument is misused but I think it would be less weaponised if advocacy groups and charities did not constantly claim abnormalities are known when they are not.
I’d rather say that the lies, gaslighting, and abuse by the BPS-lobby is entirely the fault of the BPS-lobby.

They could just as well have said «Even though we can’t find anything wrong, we still believe you when you tell us what makes you worse. We’ll do our best to accommodate your needs if you need our help with other aspects of your life or just dealing with severe illness in general.»

They’ve chosen to do the opposite. That’s their fault.

The professionals (i.e. the researchers and doctors) should also face higher expectations of scientific rigour. They should be able to look past dubious claims, not weaponize it against the patients.
 
I’d rather say that the lies, gaslighting, and abuse by the BPS-lobby is entirely the fault of the BPS-lobby.

It is, but what if the BPS lobby has the sympathy of almost all other branches of medicine because of the persistent claims about mitochondria and retroviruses and neck subluxation and dysautonomia and mast cells and what-not? I am pretty sure that the reason why none of the clinicians in the rheumatology unit came to my seminar last month, other than my two close B cell collaborators, was because they want shot of all patients with ME/CFS because they are fed up with all this stuff the patients bring along with them. That is entirely unfair but I think it needs to be recognised as a reality. When I initially proposed that an ME/CFS trial might be set up at UCL several colleagues wrote a letter to the head of department to say that these patients should not be treated in our unit.

I do think advocacy groups have had a role in this.
 
It is, but what if the BPS lobby has the sympathy of almost all other branches of medicine because of the persistent claims about mitochondria and retroviruses and neck subluxation and dysautonomia and mast cells and what-not?
What if the persistent claims are there because nobody believed them from the start (edit: before the claims)?

And the claims of the patients are no more ridiculous than the claims of the BPS-lobby, and plenty of other reseachers and doctors.
 
What if the persistent claims are there because nobody believed them from the start (edit: before the claims)?

I am not in the least blaming patients for believing in these so-called abnormalities. We would all do that in the circumstances. That was never my intention.

My point is that advocacy groups and charities that are there to help patients may be doing the opposite by feeding these narratives. We have seen it with the '9000 papers on biomedical abnormalities' from MEA. We have seen it from MEAction all the time. We have charities and advocacy groups happy to endorse stories about micro-clots and whatever. 'There for ME' have picked up the same stuff. High profile Twitter-scientists post this stuff constantly claiming to be working day and night for patients.

Being 'no more ridiculous' is not gong to win the argument. What I think could win is sticking to what is really known. And putting it out there in Sasha's factsheets.
 
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