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  1. Sean

    Sean Moderator Staff Member

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    But now a new specialised clinic will open to receive patients who need a diagnosis and rehabilitation.

    Meet the new clinic. Same as the old clinic.
     
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  2. mango

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    LO-TCO Rättskydd AB: Kammarrätten gav person med ME/CFS (kroniskt trötthetstillstånd) rätt till sjukpenning
    https://www.fackjuridik.se/kammarra...skt-trotthetstillstand-ratt-till-sjukpenning/

     
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    ME/CFS is a diagnosis that leads to problems with significant fatigue and other problems that cannot be objectively measured.

    That is just not true. We can measure stuff like physical capacity (particularly PEM related, including stamina, e.g. CPET), employment and welfare levels, etc.

    If they had said that there is no specific objective diagnostic test, that would be on safer ground.
     
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    Krönika av Agnes Arpi: ME-patienter ses som bråkstakar med hjärnspöken
    https://www.altinget.se/artikel/me-patienter-ses-som-braakstakar-med-hjarnspoken
     
  5. rvallee

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    To hell with consensus. We'll never have agreement with the people who want the magical pseudoscience, our goals are mutually exclusive in every possible way, they will be furious and excluded once a breakthrough occurs and it's the last thing they want. We need science and facts, and a move away from having people who are guided by their beliefs, which happen to be about negating our lived experience, to a system that respects patients' lived experience as genuine and factual enough to work with as a foundation.

    There is no consensus to be had here any more than it's possible to have consensus on AIDS before the research started, trying to bridge reality with what HIV deniers and the people who mocked it as the "gay plague" wanted. Science isn't about pleasing people, it's about finding out what's true, and the psychosomatic ideology having had a complete stranglehold for decades simply deserves no place at the table, they contribute nothing.

    In geopolitics, you don't have a choice to negotiate with tyrants and terrorists. We don't have to entertain people's delusions, even when their own delusional beliefs are about us having delusional beliefs. This is supposed to be about science, this is not how this works!
     
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    Opinion piece by a political party in a local paper.

    Nerikes Allehanda: Ändlös resa i trötthet som inte leder till rätt vård
    https://www.na.se/artikel/andlos-resa-i-trotthet-som-inte-leder-till-ratt-vard/
     
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    Motion in Örebro County, Sweden, from the Left Party, arguing for access to medical and dental healthcare at home for severely ill pwME :thumbsup:

    https://politiskamoten.regionorebro...jukvard-for-me-patienterpdf?downloadMode=open
     
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