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Discussion in 'Regional news' started by Tom Kindlon, Jan 24, 2021.

  1. rvallee

    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Rather good article in Quebec's most-read newspaper, surprisingly so given how generally poor coverage has been in Canada.

    Encéphalomyélite myalgique: qu’arrivera-t-il aux patients post-COVID?
    Myalgic encephalomyelitis: what will happen to post-COVID patients?

    Only annoyance is how it stresses the issue of how they might fall through cracks in the health care system, without really saying that those cracks definitely need closing. It mentions how governments and public health authorities have not moved into action, neglecting the fact that they neglected to do so based on what is common belief in medicine: that it is not a problem worth even thinking about.

    https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...gique-quarrivera-t-il-aux-patients-post-covid

    https://translate.google.com/transl...gique-quarrivera-t-il-aux-patients-post-covid
     
  2. Mij

    Mij Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    "post exercise discomfort" I'm assuming is the translation from malaise.

    No brouillard cérébral? Thank goodness they're using the term cognitive impairment.

    Not a bad article.
     
  3. rvallee

    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    It's malaise in the original. Which is funny considering the word means the same in both languages.

    You see the thing with the French is that we don't have a word for entrepreneur. (It's a W Bush joke)
     
  4. Sly Saint

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    Unmet needs of ME
    https://www.mefm.bc.ca/post/unmet-needs-of-me
     
  5. Hutan

    Hutan Moderator Staff Member

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    Northwestern Law Professor Steven Lubet writes about his correspondence with the McMaster University Psychiatry Department -
    "Can McMaster University Medical School Psychiatrists Be Trusted to Treat ME/CFS Patients?"

    link and discussion here
    BPS attempts at psychologizing #LongCovid
     
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    Some COVID-19 long-haulers are developing a 'devastating' syndrome

    Very good and quite detailed article, featuring Alain Moreau and Lucinda Bateman and also quoting Anthony Fauci (what he said at that meeting of the American Academy of Neurology recently).

    "Worryingly, Moreau said a lot of the patients he’s seen are young women between the ages of 24 and 35.

    “That is really, really scaring us, in terms of you don't want to end up with chronic complex diseases that will prevent you to go back to work and to accomplish your life when you are only 24 or 25,” he said.

    Bateman, too, said she’s already witnessing an “explosion” of new ME/CFS cases in her clinic and that more research on the disease is urgently needed. She said the COVID-19 pandemic can provide them with a rare opportunity to study the evolution of ME/CFS from the initial infection.

    “We now have the opportunity to document the virus that caused it and kind of track what happens as the illness evolves until it meets the same criteria we use for ME/CFS,” she said. “That then should inform and help us understand more about the situation ME/CFS patients are experiencing.”​

    Full article:

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coron...e-developing-a-devastating-syndrome-1.5415288
     
  7. rvallee

    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Really good interview last night on CBC, the national broadcaster, with a physiotherapist who described both Long Covid and ME so well. She says at her respiratory clinic, about 90% of patients are LC. Although I think this may be a natural consequence of other respiratory diseases having more or less vanished for the time being.

    Really glad for the host to ask pertinent questions, especially to ask about "that acronym, what is it?". Ends with: "you can't exercise your way out of this". If only we could, but we all tried, it's such freaking common sense a dog would probably think of it.

    https://twitter.com/user/status/1391562073289764865
     
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    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Naturally, there was the obligatory "we've never seen anything like this before" comment.

    This was followed up by "10 per cent of people who get covid end up with long term symptoms" on multiple occasions.

    Of course, medicine knows of no other virus that leaves 10 per cent of patients permanently ill.
     
  10. rvallee

    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I'm constantly amazed at how often those two contradictory ideas can be spoken within seconds of one another with zero awareness of the contradiction.

    Dr Orwell made doublethink a virtue of some kind.
     
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  11. rvallee

    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    It appears that the LC clinics in Canada are basically on the same model as the UK clinics. The model being: bad. It's not a good model but it sure is a model.

    They don't seem to diagnose ME, just give them a pamphlet, framing it as anxiety/depression, and send them packing with something about a local "ME clinic" that probably doesn't exist. About typical, but after a full year this is shamefully bad, zero learning from experience, total failure.

    https://twitter.com/user/status/1399809550664962048
     
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  12. Ariel

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    Very sorry to hear this. Oh no. :(

    It also really bothers me that many people who have clearly developed ME/CFS after contracting covid and long covid are not being diagnosed as such. More erasure.
     
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  13. rvallee

    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Pretty good article in a Quebec newspaper, said to be 1 of 3. Very fair article that uses the backdrop of LC but is mostly about ME. Has quotes by a former GP pwME and Alain Moreau. It's a smaller distribution paper but high quality. I think neglected is more accurate than ignored but that's a small issue compared to most articles.

    One good thing, it mentions a GP who understood the issue following a presentation by Simon Décary, a physical therapy researcher who started a research rehabilitation program on LC and quickly adjusted, published a paper discussed here: JOSPT: Humility and Acceptance: Working Within Our Limits With Long COVID and ME/CFS - Décary et al - 2021.

    Reads are limited to 4 per month but I don't know if this works from anywhere in the world.


    An ignored disease highlighted by long-lasting COVID

    https://www.ledevoir.com/societe/sa...ree-mise-en-lumiere-par-la-covid-longue-duree

    https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.ledevoir.com/societe/sante/607035/sante-une-maladie-ignoree-mise-en-lumiere-par-la-covid-longue-duree
     
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  14. rvallee

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    Part 2 is out. Also excellent, continuing well on the first, even recognizing that pwME were among the first to predict LC even as medicine is still unable to. Almost sad it will have such a limited reach.


    A clear similarity to long-lasting COVID

    https://www.ledevoir.com/societe/sante/607578/sante-une-similitude-evidente

    https://translate.google.com/transl...te/sante/607578/sante-une-similitude-evidente

    While many doctors were dubious, or at best puzzled by the symptoms of individuals with long-lasting COVID, people with ME / CFS recognized them as their own right away. They had understood long before anyone else that these individuals had developed a disease unknown to the medical community which, in nearly 80% of cases, appears as a result of an infection.

    Whether after the Spanish influenza pandemic of 1918 or following the outbreaks of SARS-CoV in 2003, H1N1 influenza in 2009 or Ebola in 2014, each time, a certain number of people having contracted one of the these viruses kept persistent sequelae of their infection, which are similar to those experienced today by people with long-term COVID and ME / CFS : rapid fatigue not relieved by rest, unexplained tachycardia, muscle and joint pain, difficulty concentrating, remembering and feeling like you are swimming in a mental fog.
     
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  15. rvallee

    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Part 3, focusing on research and how it's systematically blocked and demeaned, with quotes by Alain Moreau.


    A disease neglected by research

    https://www.ledevoir.com/societe/sa...ronique-une-maladie-negligee-par-la-recherche

    https://translate.google.com/transl...ronique-une-maladie-negligee-par-la-recherche

    ME / CFS, a disease for which there is still no treatment or even a test to diagnose it, has so far been largely ignored in research. The proliferation of long-lasting COVID cases which, in all likelihood, have developed a form of ME / CFS, has sparked massive investment from governments which should thereby benefit this "medically orphan disease".​
     
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    Long term benefits of cognitive behavioural therapy for those with Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS).
    https://cdhf.ca/health-lifestyle/long-term-benefits-of-cognitive-behavioural-therapy-for-ibs/

    @dave30th
     
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  17. Snowdrop

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    Well, that's wasted money down the toilet.
     
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  18. rvallee

    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    "There's an app for that!"


    Ugh...
     
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    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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