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New Scientist: Blood cells in CFS are drained of energy

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS news' started by Kalliope, Nov 3, 2017.

  1. Kalliope

    Kalliope Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Oh wow - they used that old photo from one of the blood ban demos in the UK. I think the London one. Quite a day
     
  3. Cheesus

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    I can't wait for the day when an article doesn't have to start out by saying that there is a debate between psychological and physiological explanations for the disease. When that day finally arrives we will know this whole sorry BPS mess is behind us.
     
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  5. BruceInOz

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    This is a report on the paper discussed in this thread:

    https://www.s4me.info/index.php?thr...n-patients-with-chronic-fatigue-syndrome.257/

    Cara Tomas is the lead author.
     
  6. Samuel

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    From WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006) [wn]:

    listless
    adj 1: lacking zest or vivacity; "he was listless and bored"
    2: marked by low spirits; showing no enthusiasm; "a dispirited
    and divided Party"; "reacted to the crisis with listless
    resignation" [syn: {dispirited}, {listless}]
     
  7. Barry

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    At this time, unfortunately, it's true there is a lot of debate. The article very rightly targets the many readers, from all walks of life, who believe ME to be psychological, confronting them with a truth they are resistant to, but increasingly irrefutable, even to the skeptics.

    Edit: I wasn't disagreeing with you by the way @Cheesus; I wholeheartedly agree with you. You are very right, that it will be a major milestone when we reach that point.
     
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  8. Alvin

    Alvin Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    drained may not be correct, unable to utilize, but why nitpick
     
  9. NelliePledge

    NelliePledge Moderator Staff Member

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    Is the Holgate quoted in new scientist the CMRC guy?
     
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    I'd assume so.
     
  11. Barry

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    Yes. Although not obvious, the pdf has a hyperlink in it. If you click on his name it takes you to ...

    https://www.southampton.ac.uk/medicine/about/staff/sth.page

    This is surely the same Stephen Holgate. However, despite his uncompromising/unforgivable support for EC etc, his comment in the article seems good to me, so credit where credit's due ...
    Though you do wonder if his terminology of "whole-body experience" might have something up its sleeve.
     
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    I was thinking the exact same thing. There've been some articles which don't mention it, and it's like a breath of fresh air. Finally! Hopefully the trickle will soon become a flood.
     
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  13. Sisterofpwme

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    Re. Holgate quote in this article and in case anyone not already aware, he is due to participate at UK Unrest screening at Royal Free hosp with Afme on 7 Nov https://www.actionforme.org.uk/news/join-us-for-me-event-at-the-royal-free-hospital/
     
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