Miguel Bautista’s CFS Recovery ‘recovery jumpstart’

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  1. Dolphin

    Dolphin Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    An extract from an email from someone who wanted this program highlighted more (but not in a way to promote it):

    HIs name is Miguel Bautista. His program is called ‘recovery jumpstart’ and is a form of brain retraining which suggests that there is nothing physically wrong in the bodies of ME/CFS patients but that the issue is purely a ‘hypersensitive nervous system’. He charges 6500 USD to access his program for only one year (and 297USD per month thereafter). In a recent interview with someone else, he admitted that his number one aim for this year is to hit a million dollars

    A few links:

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKRfV9WJbJk


    - an example of Miguel on his YouTube channel


    2, A shortened version of the clip in which he reveal his millionaire ambitions:

    3. Two reviews by program participants setting out to expose him

     
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    Wow. :eek:

    It sounds as if the creator of this program has been taking lessons from the man who runs LP programs.
     
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    Snake oil university
     
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    It's really amateurish BPS. He chose a distracting background with people walking past, so each stop and start when he fluffs his lines are super obvious.

    You aren't having a crash, you are having 'an adjustment period'.
    Never mind that you aren't seeing progress in objective measures of recovery, it's your mindset that matters.

    Don't worry that one week you can do 5 walks, but the next week you can only do two, or the five walks are really hard. So long as your mindset is right, all will be well.

    It's a recipe for running people into long term deterioration.
     
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    Interesting that they use the exact same words and framing as the I Can Thrive program (as told by Niklas Malmquist)...
     
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    Bautista says he is from CFS Recovery.

    Niklas Malmquist quotes CFS Recovery: (from @mango's link)
    I don't know if Bautista alone is CFS Recovery, or if CFS Recovery is a bigger organisation.
     
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    Grifters gonna grift.
     
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    For anyone who, like myself, is unable to see the two embedded Reddit links above, I searched and found the thread, see if this works: www.reddit.com/r/cfs/comments/15i34mh/my_personal_experience_with_cfs_recovery/
    (My bold.) That would explain the many glowing comments on the above video if you click through to YouTube. So a cynical money-grabbing charlatan preying upon the already minimal finances of desperate people too sick to work, then.
    It breaks my heart that, as with the Lightning Process and other cons, many people will be scared and wanting to BELIEVE that this may be their big hope, so they will hand over what little money they have and potentially make their condition worse by following his 'advice' - just so that this vulture can make his million out of their suffering. It's so despicable that there are no words. :sick::ill::broken_heart:.
     
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    There are several varieties out there that come up regularly on searches. I don't think they are connected but rather individuals cashing in on exploiting sick people.
    eg
    http://cfsrecoveryproject.com/
    note disclaimer
     
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    LOL! That's really the only purpose it has...
     
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    What is it with some Americans? I once convinced one that western Ireland has an extra day of the week.
     
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    He was a guest on some grifter YouTube channel or podcast recently, where he's saying he wants to 'make a million'.

     
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    It truly is the old shamanism. It's something super simple, as simple as a dance, but you have to know the exact right way to do it, and only a trained master can show it to you. For a price. But all it takes to become a trained master is a week-end course. Or something like that.
     
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    That's Toby Morrison, based in Australia. I and others have written about him, if not here then previously, on PR. He charges people huge sums for his advice.

    Seems he had chronic fatigue as a teenager, and recovered as most people do, so of course believes that he knows how to fix people.
     
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    Bautista apparently sent out a press release about his groundbreaking treatment.

    CFS Recovery Leads the Way with Brain Retraining for Chronic Post-Viral Syndromes


    CFS Recovery has introduced a groundbreaking nervous system recalibration program designed to address persistent post-viral conditions by recalibrating the nervous system. This innovative approach offers personalized recovery plans, empowering individuals to overcome chronic symptoms and regain their health.​


    If you have the stomach to read it, there is some "hilarious" wording, like: "a leader in chronic illness recovery solutions".

    I wonder about the legality of this though, does this meet advertising standards? I remember both Gupta and the Lightning Process had issues with their unsupported claims.
     
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    It's in the investment section, so that's fitting. But for sure there are likely issues with regulators here. Financial investors have far better protections against fraud than sick people have for health care.

    I had never seen this guy on social media before, but saw him the other shilling for his business on twitter.
     
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