Maeve Boothby O'Neill - articles about her life, death and inquest

Another observation from Roy's testimony yesterday: when mentioning that Maeve could not tolerate the feed that they have tried her with through an NG, he suggested that was probably because of "visceral hypersensitivity".

I picked up on that immediately as the term's usually used in the context of (supposed) FGIDs. Again, goes to their assumptions.
 
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That could be. I understand that meaning and it could be what he meant. But it didn't sound like that to me in the context. It sounded like an inartful way of saying that she wouldn't be able to digest normally afterward. ADD: Perhaps it was ambiguous and he meant both at the same time.
It sounds too close to the reasons given to PWME who are bedbound or want to use an aid like a wheelchair.

I was denied a NHS wheelchair as I was told that if I used one my muscles would atrophy and I would lose the ability to walk the small amount as an example.

People with ME who are bedbound or sofa bound are told that unless we move we will lose our muscle power and become reconditioned. I am still told this regularly.
 
An interesting article from PULSE (a GP publication )

“Behind the headlines: A case study in how the press can blame a blameless GP”


Pulse examines the media coverage of the inquest of a woman with ME as headlines abound blaming her GP. Maya Dhillon looks at the case and questions why these dangerous headlines are being used

https://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/analys...dy-in-how-the-press-can-blame-a-blameless-gp/

Wildly inaccurate article in Pulse.

Not my impression at all of the press articles.

Seems overly defensive.
 
Another observation from Roy's testimony yesterday: when mentioning that Maeve could not tolerate the feed that they have tried her with through an NG, he suggested that was probably because of "visceral hypersensitivity".

I picked up on that immediately as the term's usually used in the context of (supposed) FGIDs. Again, goes to their assumptions.
Assuming F in FGID is the ubiquitous “functional”
 
An interesting article from PULSE (a GP publication )

“Behind the headlines: A case study in how the press can blame a blameless GP”


Pulse examines the media coverage of the inquest of a woman with ME as headlines abound blaming her GP. Maya Dhillon looks at the case and questions why these dangerous headlines are being used

https://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/analys...dy-in-how-the-press-can-blame-a-blameless-gp/

This is hooking onto the current view that the media / public are ‘going after’ GPs, and the impending collective action which was until very recently going to involve stopping using advice and guidance (and instead simply referring) and stopping using referral forms (and instead just writing their own letters), these actions have been taken off the menu, but show the general mood towards secondary care eta: and ICBs, and NHSE)
 
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I don't know if anyone has mentioned thinking the same thing I did when I saw that, maybe I've missed it, but what struck me was that of course, post-1980s was when CBT/GET started being pushed as so-called 'treatment' for ME; I've read numerous personal anecdotes of later sufferers saying that they were mild-moderate and able to walk and have some function, until after a course of GET resulted in them becoming worsened to the point of needing a wheelchair or becoming bedridden. Can this worsening of level of sickness of ME patients be tied to subjecting them to GET?

In my own n=1 experience of getting ME in 1983, the notion of subjecting us to CBT/GET didn't exist yet; the main advice was staying within the limits of activity we found the illness imposed on us and not exceeding them (later called pacing), sufficient rest, and very healthy diet. In those days, it was thought that the illness would subside and recovery take place within 2-5 years, and that was the case for me under those conditions. (Until I got struck down again 15 years later after another severe virus.) Now suddenly we have people getting, and staying, severely ill for decades, and it does make me wonder if GET is entirely to blame for that. Now that the current NICE Guidelines forbid GET as treatment, I wonder if the situation will improve? Except, of course, in the case of those practitioners who have chosen to ignore the new guidelines and carry on with GET.
I think this is a really important point. Dr Weir has seen more very severe patients since the GET was pushed
 
I’m hoping next week we find out why the NG wasn’t even attempted until July

I read a report I think it quoted Dr Patel saying about the patient making “irrational choices” I think in the context of wanting to go home. They’re not irrational if you have ME, doc.
 
It's Sat morning here so I'm responding to comments that go back a few pages.

My own interpretation of that remark in context was not that he was saying it would medicalize her as opposed to psychologizing her--in other words, I don't think he was necessarily suggesting the kind of stimulus challenge based on the GET theory. It seemed like he was mainly saying that it would medicalize her in the sense that it might leave her permanently unable to digest normally because various muscles would atrophy permanently. I could be wrong, but that's how I took it.

I am pretty certain that 'medicalise' in this context means to give credence to biomedical explanations and management approaches for an illness. That is the only UK medical usage I am aware of in this context.

Absolutely "medicalise" is only ever used in the way Jo describes. To validate and re-inforce that there's a medical (ie biological) problem when (we are convinced) there isn't one. The thinking being that this will be a positive feedback loop that perpetuates the patient's delusion/functional disorder. I have no doubt this can happen, but it's vastly overplayed to include nearly everything that medicine doesn't yet understand the biology of. Starting to change only very recently, non-cardiac chest pain (esp in women) fitted into this category, "helped" by the inevitable and quite understandable anxiety you would observe with the presentation.

A related concept is the risk of "becoming institutionalised" / "institutionalisation".

I am left wondering what happened to PEG feeding?
We are given reasons for not using TPN IV lines - infection.
I am not aware of an equivalent risk of septicaemia for PEG.

You do see infections around the stoma very occasionally, but it's pretty rare. I can't recall a case of sepsis. Wait — I do recall one PEG replacement that went wrong resulting in peritonitis and death.

But more often it's excoriated skin if there's a leak of gastric fluid around the PEG. Sometimes the skin breakdown could open the stoma wider and then the retention balloon can't hold the seal and everything get's worse. The surgeons would then do something like remove the device and allow the stoma to heal and then re-position. I can only think of one example from years ago but not the details. Alternative feeding pathway would then be temporary NGT/NJT or possibly direct jejunostomy. I can't recall if temporary TPN might have been used in this sort of situation, but I'm confident my gastro and surgical colleagues would have no issue moving to that if required.

Just as a side note: in intractable intestinal failure from some rare early life causes, TPN is maintained until central venous access is exhausted. And I've seen our surgeons be very creative in the late stages. This means that if the patient then becomes a candidate for en-bloc intestinal/liver/pancreas transplant there is very little vascular access. I make this point to highlight the differences in approach, where the "never give up, never surrender" model contrasts so starkly with what we're seeing in the inquest. Many of these childhood conditions would also be characterised as complex. I should also note that the psychological effects on child and family are hugely consequential - it's just that no-one thinks that's what started it all off.

A valid hypothesis, hard to test, however. Worth noting that the case of the SARS-1 survivors in Toronto all went through very extensive rehabilitation regimens and all of them are still highly disabled.

Yeah the idea that GET caused more severe presentations is a good one. I hadn't thought of this. I don't think it's a requirement though, eg I didn't see reference to Physics Girl doing GET before she became severe. However there's possibly an element of self-GETing that may even be a bigger factor. Going to the gym as a general activity that "most" people did is new phenomenon, starting in the 80s and picking up through the 90s to be very common today.

Proving it? As commented above I doubt we could or should do trials. But I suspect this answer will become very clear once metabolic, muscle, vascular mechanisms are elucidated: eg. Hanson, Wüst.
 
Message from Sean O’Neill on Xitter:

“End of week one of Maeve’s inquest. It has been a time for learning and sadness as well as questioning. I feel it’s time to bury the anger and remember the woman, daughter, sister, cousin, niece, writer, linguist, feminist and much more. ‘Rest in the sounding of the heart.’”​



I will share this on the members only thread too.
 
Reports on day 5:

BBC:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c51yz0pq1ypo.amp

Daily Telegraph:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/07/26/maeve-boothby-oneill-frightened-no-doctors-help-inquest/

[Edit: non-paywall copy of DT article (provided by @MrMagoo below): https://archive.is/fV7Pn]

The BBC report is dreadful, with all the focus on the fact that Maeve asked to be discharged against the Dr Patel’s advice, with none of the context.

DT article seems to be very good (although hard for me to judge accuracy when I wasn’t there). I’m surprised and pleased the the DT coverage has been so good all week.
 
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seems they threw everyone out, then people went back in and only those who did it quickly got in, and the rest locked out. Really sucks. It's hard to believe the IT people in Exeter don't know how to mute everyone's mic except for those who are testifying or speaking in the courtroom. This seems like it should be elementary and not complicated.
That wasn't really the issue that caused the lock out, and apologies if I gave that impression on Xitter.
What I think happened was that on three occasions in the afternoon, attendees accidentally pressed the "Mute All" button, which resulted in everyone including CR 4 being muted. Chat was disabled so this was followed by countless "Raised Hands". The Coroner then had to reset audio etc. and it was starting to disrupt the flow of questioning.
Obviously external attendees are purely at her discretion.
The final straw was, I believe, a disconnection at the Exeter end, which booted everyone out as per my Xitter comment which a few of you saw.
She opened the connection, but only allowed a brief period before locking the call, and I have no idea of the reasoning on that, but presumably she just wanted to get on without further interruption.
It was frustrating particularly as Mr. Tuller and a few of those who had been lovely posting quoted couldn't get back in. I was fortunate to be in the remaining 104.
 
Reports on day 5:

BBC:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c51yz0pq1ypo.amp

Daily Telegraph:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/07/26/maeve-boothby-oneill-frightened-no-doctors-help-inquest/

The BBC report is dreadful, with all the focus on the fact that Maeve asked to be discharged against the Dr Patel’s advice, with none of the context.

DT article seems to be very good (although hard for me to judge accuracy when I wasn’t there). I’m surprised and pleased the the DT coverage has been so good all week.
Agreed, the Telegraph piece gives Maeve’s voice very clearly.
Non-paywalled here https://archive.is/fV7Pn
 
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