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Long Covid in the media and social media 2022

Discussion in 'Long Covid news' started by rvallee, Feb 3, 2022.

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    Hutan Moderator Staff Member

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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...lly-mental-illness-suggest-health-chiefs.html
     
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    'This letter shows that those at the heart of Government don't understand the condition at all.'

    And don't want to.
     
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    Interesting article and report appeared this week on Ici Radio-Canada (French).
    https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvell...ail-covid-longue-milliers-quebecois-symptomes

    Poor her, because of her disabling limitations, she had to go back to live with her parents at 36 years old... The article also reports the testimony of an occupational therapist working with people suffering from long covid and explaining why the return to work is so laborious for this clientele :

    The journalist also highlights the worrying lack of precise data on the number of people affected in the Province. He mentions a recent study by the National Institute of Public Health of Quebec alerting to these prolonged absences in the health network which could even end up harming the care offered to the population.

    * excerpts are translations
     
  5. Sean

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    This is encouraging. The reality is starting to break through.
     
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    It would be the deepest irony if the stranglehold of this rotten ideology came to an end because too many medical professionals happened to experience its cruelty and ineptitude at the same time, happen to see what's on the other side of the looking glass. They don't seem to make the connection yet, though. This makes the whole "this is completely new and unprecedented" message so important.

    I think it's more likely that they will carve out exceptions for themselves and leave everyone else rotten. At least at first. Which is really awful, considering the medical profession is entirely responsible for this disaster. But it won't work, there will be no fixing this issue for some. It will either be fixed for all or no one will be spared. Either everyone is protected, or no one is.
     
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    The long covid specialist clinic in Uppsala, Sweden, is likely to be closed down.

    Uppsalas postcovid-mottagning kan läggas ned – trots långa väntetider
    https://amp.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/uppsala/framtiden-ar-osaker-for-uppsalas-postcovid-mottagning
    Cilia lider av postcovid – oroad inför mottagningens framtid
    https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/uppsala/cilia-lider-av-postcovid-kritisk-till-nedlaggningen
    She believes the plan won't work because no one knows which specialist doctors to send these patients to: neurology, cardiology, a lung doctor, there are no "fatigue specialists" or specialist in multisystemic diseases. She believes the multidiciplinary post-covid clinic is valuable because of the clinical experience: seeing so many post-covid patients enables the doctors to learn a lot about the condition, and to start develop knowledge about what usually helps and what doesn't, and so on.

    In the video she also mentions that she gets a fever when she does too much, and gets really ill when taking a shower, as if a weighted blanket has been put on top of her.
     
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    Are We Giving the Wrong Advice To People with Long COVID?
    https://bylinetimes.com/2022/07/05/are-we-giving-the-wrong-advice-to-people-with-long-covid/

    The first time she started to feel a little better Paula took their advice, and crashed almost instantly. “I pushed through it and I ended up in bed. For a week and a half, literally, without the energy to get out,” she said. She could barely muster the strength to go to the toilet.

    In February, when Paula had an appointment at her local Long COVID clinic at Addenbrooke’s Hospital in Cambridge, she was ready for some guidance and support. Instead, she was told to exercise.

    The idea that exercise is a useful treatment for people with chronic illnesses is not new. Chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS), which like Long COVID is most prevalent in women, has historically been dismissed by medical professionals, often attributed to laziness or mental-health issues. A gradual increase in physical activity, known as graded exercise therapy (GET), was promoted as a cure, as was cognitive behavioural therapy.
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    GET is not mentioned in the Long COVID treatment guidance, which is limited, reflecting how new the condition is, but a spokesperson for NICE said that it “does not recommend either [cognitive behavioural therapy] or GET in the management of post-COVID-19 syndrome”, which is another name for Long COVID.

    And yet they are almost universally used, even asserted to be effective. Despite no evidence. And in the case of ME, against evidence, showing beyond any doubt that evidence is entirely irrelevant in evidence-based medicine, it's popularity of evidence, regardless of its substance.
     
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    I suppose this is a positive story in that the medical practitioners involved have realised that pacing is key and that rehabilitation is not effective or safe. That being said, they still appear to be putting patients through useless exercises. Old habits die hard.

    I know I'm preaching to the converted but these quotes also explain why trials of CBT and GET may lead to improvement on subjective outcome measures. The patient feels less alone and listened to. But, of course, they don't make any objective improvements.
     
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    https://twitter.com/user/status/1544684818734239748
     
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    Whatever it takes. *shrugs*
     
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    News article, Sweden:

    Barn med postcovid blir friska snabbare än vuxna
    https://www.dn.se/sverige/barn-med-postcovid-blir-friska-snabbare-an-vuxna/
     
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    It's worrying that they recommend "activating" children with Long Covid. Why so dismissive of convalescence?
     
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    Good thing that nobody is advocating that approach.
     
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    For American friends on the forum who may be less inclined to feel that the Carson/Stone axis is relevant to Long Covid care in the US, I’ve noticed that Carson and FND are becoming incredibly popular amongst the Adam Gaffney cohort. Gaffney has intimated FND represents a plausible explanation for Long Covid and he wields considerable influence. Troubling stuff. Hopefully word can spread to potential participants to steer clear. Any ideas on how this could be better achieved?
     
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