Post Ebola Syndrome

A Twitter user pointed out this interesting tidbit: survivors of Ebola seem to display similar symptoms to ME. This isn't particularly new but potentially very interesting.

Is it closer to ME or PVFS? Are those different other than a better prognosis for the latter? Not sure enough time has passed to be certain. Would have been interesting to know what % and whether there is a spectrum.

Really past time for medicine to get its act together and accept that the calculus isn't a simple matter of active infection = illness, no active infection = all done and resolved.

https://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/treatment/survivors.html

 

There are references to post-Ebola virus syndrome since 2014.

 

Interesting. It is already well known that hemorrhagic fevers—the group of diseases that ebola belongs to—is a cause of post-viral fatigue syndrome.

 

I think (benign)ME and PVFS are classified by the WHO as the same.

but re the post-ebola virus syndrome:
from Wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-Ebola_virus_syndrome

 

With the knowledge we have now, I think it is fair to say that post infectious syndromes have ME-like symptoms without the broken aerobic system and the PEM. Far too often we hear that things are like ME from professionals who think ME is chronic fatigue.

ME may present as a PVS in the early stages but i believe that a diagnostic test will pick out the differences.

My husband had a bad PVS that lasted almost a year but it never crossed our minds that it had anything in common with my ME. He had fatigue mainly while I had fatiguability and neurological symptoms.

 

One item here is flat-out wrong. Whatever you may think of the Lyme controversy, even the most strident and conservative IDSA stalwarts will admit that Borrelia Burgdorferi can cause persistent infection. They think it's exceptional, but they admit it does happen. ILADS advocates contend not only can it happen, it happens with frightening frequency.

My point here is this chart says Bb is an organism causing no persistent or latent infection. If they've got that wrong, what else here is written as a certitude that is not, ie, what else have they gotten wrong in this chart? What "facts" are out there in medicine that are taught as "facts" but are simply wrong? How prevalent is misinformation?

 

Not specifically COVID, but interesting article re pathogens enduring. New Ebola cases linked to survivor from 5 years ago.

The persistence of pathogens may assume more importance


https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...ak-likely-sparked-person-infected-5-years-ago

 

I found that very interesting, too. First thing I thought was that how stigmatized that will make Ebola survivors. And maybe people with other infections that persist longer, too.

 

They are referring to Ebola as a latent virus.

This ‘resurrected’ virus, transmitting from people who recovered from an Ebola outbreak five years ago, suggests that sometimes survivors still harbour the virus many years later.

“This is very surprising and very shocking,” César Muñoz-Fontela of the Bernhard Nocht Institute for Tropical Medicine in Germany told New Scientist. Muñoz-Fontela was in Guinea during the previous Ebola epidemic. “It’s like a relapse.”

https://cosmosmagazine.com/health/body-and-mind/ebola-resurfaced-some-viruses-are-never-really-gone/

Behind paywall

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02378-w