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Fatigue in Multiple Sclerosis Is Associated With Childhood Adversities: Pust et al Aug 2020

Discussion in 'Other health news and research' started by Sly Saint, Aug 29, 2020.

  1. Sly Saint

    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyt.2020.00811/full

     
  2. NelliePledge

    NelliePledge Moderator Staff Member

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    So the behavioural treatment CBT helps (allegedly) so the problem must be behavioural.

    all those health charities welcoming CBT as psychological support for their diseases be careful what you wish for - psychosomatic Trojan horse.
     
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  3. Sean

    Sean Moderator Staff Member

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    Retrospective.

    :yawn::yawn::yawn:
     
  4. rvallee

    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    The normal reaction to this would be to consider this obviously ridiculous and therefore that all those "associations" elsewhere in the literature have no credible value, that neither "fatigue" nor actual "adversity" were actually "measured" and therefore those tools are obviously flawed to the point of being useless. None of those questionnaires are any more relevant to real life than any Facebook or teen magazine questionnaire. Grow the F up.

    Repeat with me folks: correlation does not equal causation. Once more for the particularly slow ones at the back of the class, with a William Shatner affect for good measure: Correlation. Does not. Equal. Causation. Keep doing that, maybe it will prevent you from reporting obvious nonsense.

    The introduction of psychology to medicine was a huge mistake, psychology is not even close to be ready to be used this way. Like physics or chemistry trying to do their thing without a working thermometer and instead using subjective cold, cool, warm, hot scales. You need relevant tools, thought experiments are not good enough.
     
  5. Snowdrop

    Snowdrop Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Muddled thinking in cognitive behaviourists is associated with irrational beliefs.
     
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