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Efficacy of acupoint catgut embedding combined with ginger-partitioned moxibustion on CFS of spleen-kidney yang deficiency syndrome.., 2017, Xia et al

Discussion in 'ME/CFS research' started by Andy, Dec 14, 2017.

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    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29231339
     
    Andy, Dec 14, 2017
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    Well, I should feel better already, as reading that abstract was akin to sticking pins in myself.
     
    Londinium, Dec 14, 2017
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    spleen-kidney yang deficiency syndrome

    SKYDS

    Catchy.
     
    Marco, Dec 15, 2017
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    LOL!
    The title was enough for me :wtf:
     
    Alvin, Dec 15, 2017
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    I was recently wondering whether to inject 1 cm long catgut segments into myself whilst burning some dried mugwort onto my body, so this is very useful. Thanks very much.
     
    TiredSam, Dec 17, 2017
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    Is there in some parts, of the world, a tradition of publishing spoof papers at this time of year?
     
    chrisb, Dec 17, 2017
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    No. The Chinese government is very supportive of Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) and it wouldn't surprise me if we saw an increase in ME studies from China testing TCM remedies.

    An article broadly discussing their support of TCM, https://www.nature.com/news/china-t...onal-medicine-despite-safety-concerns-1.23038
     
    Andy, Dec 17, 2017
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    i read in a detailed tcm book that a particular potion's recipe was incorrect for a thousand years. a mistaken hanzi character was used, but it was not corrected. it was just repeated. so i hope they are careful.

    "CFS of spleen-kidney yang deficiency syndrome" makes it seem that there is a syndrome, s-k y d s, of which one symptom they are discussing.

    otoh, they could be discussing a disease, of which one subtype is s-k y d s.
     
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    I was under the impression that China officially had zero cases of CFS (or ME or ME/CFS or CFS/ME) so presumably the thing described as CFS in this paper is not what even Wessely would describe as CFS, let alone us.

    If that makes any sense?
     
    Wonko, Dec 22, 2017
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    Maybe they were dealing with the unofficial cases of CFS.
     
    Little Bluestem, Dec 27, 2017
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