Dr. Anthony Fauci on Public Health and Scientific Challenges during COVID-19 - Sept 30 2020

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  1. Sly Saint

    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    "Dr. Anthony Fauci discusses some of the public health and scientific challenges presented by COVID-19. This talk was Dr. Fauci's keynote presentation at Penn Medicine's Cancer and COVID-19 virtual conference on September 30, 2020."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA4UeltYUiw


     
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    Kalliope Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    At 14.13 he says:
    The other thing that's perplexing, new, and we're learning about, is what some people call "lang haulers". Mainly people who clear the virus. So they are virologically quote "cured" of the disease, but for weeks and even months and maybe longer, they have lingering symptomatology that can be muscle aches, muscle pains, fever, what people refer to as brain fog, or an inability to focus or concentrate. These are things that in some respects resemble Myalgic Encephalopathy or Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, although it is clearly different from that.
     
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    chrisb Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    In what ways is it different. ? Apart obviously from the fact that some attribute the cause to Covid-19 and others cannot?

    Or is it that post covid is not of psychiatric origin?

    We remember.
     
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    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    That assertion would carry more weight if we knew what ME is. Obviously there are additional aspects, though it's not clear what differences they add up to. Maybe none. Probably not but we literally have no way of knowing because of willful ignorance going back decades and still the current planned course.

    The dysautonomia is clearly very similar. As are the fatigue, headaches and neurological symptoms. And obviously the exertion intolerance. But none of those have any more explanation than any other case of ME, which is the whole thing that has defined ME, all because of willful ignorance, denial and people straight up making stuff up to fill ignorance with their own preferred pet explanation. For one thing we know more about COVID because of severe hospitalized patients who receive more attention each week than all ME patients have for all history. We can't know what people never bothered to check.

    It's this ignorance that is at fault here. We know nothing and so have nothing to compare to because people chose not to know anything and now we have nothing to compare to because nobody took sufficient notes at the time. Because people failed at their job. And we clearly will not know any more until people actually begin the work and this is not happening right now, even coming straight from the very people who carry the most weight in making that decision, a decision Fauci continues to make to this day and for the foreseeable future.
     
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