Coronavirus - worldwide spread and control

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Sarah94 said:
I'm not, because I never seem to get viruses.
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Yes. I'm not sure if there is such a thread here, but on PR there is an old thread called "sick but never sick" in which some people talk about how they haven't had the flu/cold since the onset of ME. This could be due to the isolation from others, but some talk about never getting the flu even when others in the house have it.

I wrote on that thread:
I didn't get any kind of flu/cold for almost a decade after I got ME, but, by that time, I had experienced improvement in some symptoms. As other have said, I think getting the flu is actually a sign of improvement.
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On the flip side, there are patients who report that they are constantly getting colds, flu, etc..

It could all be reporting bias, but I remember telling people at the time how odd it was to be going year after year after year without catching anything.


[I'm not sure if it's considered OK to link to PR. If not, I'll remove the link and just leave the thread name.]
 
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I used to be in the "sick but never sick camp" for almost a decade. A few years ago, coinciding with an improvement in my overall ME/CFS, a cold came and since then I've had a cold once a year every winter around November time. They last a long time and affect me much more than other people. Prior to that inexplicable shift in my immune response you could cough in my face and I would catch nothing.

The latest one was very severe. Possibly it was the flu but I'm not sure since I did not go to the doctor. It lasted over 2 weeks, came on very suddenly, and at one point I was so delirious I wasn't quite sure I was going make it.

The corona thing doesn't worry me too much (I've stocked up on food and other supplies and will not leave home until it blows over) but I am concerned about other people's panic, recession and possible resulting shortages, supply chain disruptions etc.
 
Oops, it's in my state now, but 40km away. A young guy that came from Milano.

I've been prepping since the Wuhan lockdown as much as my means allowed me to.

Good thing is, I live alone and am at least now well enough to take care of myself (except heavy housework). So I can isolate myself if needed and am not worried, as long as I get all of my meds.

I have no idea if our government can or would impose lockdowns, actually :emoji_thinking:

It's only been a couple of months now though that I CAN go outside again and socialize more so I would hate to loose that.

It's strange, so many of us are house- or even bedbound. And the world is discussing if not having mass gatherings now is too much of an intrusion in public and personal lives :emoji_rolling_eyes:
 
No in Germany, Baden Württemberg.

Haha, I bet the mask keeps people away :)

I've actually made that experience yrs before, wearing a normal surgeons mask in a train after I visited someone in ICU. I got a good seat with lots of space around me.
 
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InfiniteRubix said:
In bocca al lupo. You're in Veneto?

As a side note, just had a conversation with UK family who are considering this mask to keep others away and reduce the chance of infection. Slightly bonkers, but would work. People would keep away

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Wife didn't go with that option, but proper N95 masks. But scaring away people deals with eye droplet risks, a main conclusion of the intercontinental family pandemic council the past hour. Main worry is still son bringing home germs...

Leila said:
No in Germany, Baden Württemberg.

Haha, I bet the mask keeps people away :-D

I've actually made that experience yrs before, wearing a m(normal surgeons Mask) in a train after I visited someone in ICU. I got a good seat with lots of space around me.
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Lovely state BW is.
 
Wonko said:
Probably would do the opposite in the UK with van loads of armed police turning up demanding you take off the mask and tell them where you've planted the nerve agents. :whistle:
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Yup, that's kind of why we didn't. Refusing to remove a mask when ordered to by police to avoid causing panic could be construed as an arrestable public order offence here in the UK.
 
InfiniteRubix said:
Yup, that's kind of why we didn't. Refusing to remove a mask when ordered to by police to avoid causing panic could be construed as an arrestable public order offence here in the UK.
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You wouldn't want to be in a prison/cell right now though either :emoji_flushed:

For eye protection, I got swimming goggles. They complete the outfit of N95 masks and disposable raincoats I panic bought.

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Full face respirator, full chem suit, 2 layers of gloves (standard chem resistant surgical style gloves with heavy rubber overgloves) and little blue overshoe gloves - I used to play with almost pure nicotine so I have all the gear. Not much good for sitting around watching Tv in of course, or for traveling to the corner shop and back lol.

But if there is ever a very short lived virus problem, in winter (as it's hot inside it) then I'm all set ;)
 
rvallee said:
This advice won't work in the US, where somewhere close to 20% of the population does not have meaningful health care coverage and for at least half the population we are talking about hundreds in out-of-pockets costs, tens of thousands if they are infected and need urgent care, that they don't have and which could be entirely unnecessary if it turns out to be the common cold or influenza.
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Plus people will go to work just about up until they collapse for fear of being fired.
 
Leila said:
I got swimming googles for eye protection - so no


You wouldn't want to be in a prison/cell right now though either :emoji_flushed:

For eye protection, I got swimming goggles. They complete the outfit of N95 masks and disposable raincoats I panic bought.

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Good thinking BatGirl! Swimming goggles!

Wonko said:
Full face respirator, full chem suit, 2 layers of gloves (standard chem resistant surgical style gloves with heavy rubber overgloves) and little blue overshoe gloves - I used to play with almost pure nicotine so I have all the gear. Not much good for sitting around watching Tv in of course, or for traveling to the corner shop and back lol.

But if there is ever a very short lived virus problem, in winter (as it's hot inside it) then I'm all set ;)
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Sounds like the making of some virus based Hunger Games Walking Dead hybrid spin off
 
James Morris-Lent said:
Plus people will go to work just about up until they collapse for fear of being fired.
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and @rvallee

Yup, read today about a biz traveller to China who self referred for corona tests when back home stateside. He had one the junk plans and he was hit by thousands in expenses for basic tests.

Major disincentive to self report and the CDC and others have been cut back.
 
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InfiniteRubix said:
Sounds like the making of some virus based Hunger Games Walking Dead hybrid spin off
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Nah, just the minimum protective gear for what I was working with, the aim is to have at least 2 barriers between it and my skin anywhere that could come in contact with it, as it goes straight through skin and can't be brushed off (no surface tension to make it into droplets). 2 barriers as when taking it all off any that's got onto the outer protective layer still needs to be kept off the skin.

Standard for organic toxins and reasonably effective for most things - not exactly virus proof, but a little better than a surgical mask.

What people who haven't worn this sort of gear don't appreciate is just how hot, sticky, cumbersome, and noisy it all is.
 
InfiniteRubix said:
Good thinking BatGirl! Swimming goggles!



Sounds like the making of some virus based Hunger Games Walking Dead hybrid spin off
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I will look ridicoulos in full gear if I ever have to go out like this. But I didn't want to waste money on things that I can't use for other purposes/occasions if I don't need them for this one (-> Swabians in Baden Württemberg are known for their frugality :emoji_blush:)

There's another case, a severe one in North Rhine Westfalia (Düsseldorf, huge city). I hope they stop the Karnival shenanigans there now.
 
rvallee said:
This advice won't work in the US, where somewhere close to 20% of the population does not have meaningful health care coverage
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Emergency rooms are required to take everyone, so unfortunately in the US those without health insurance often use that as their primary care. Now something like this could cause even more over-crowding in emergency rooms than usual.
 
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