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Clare Gerada: influence on UK medical practice and ME/CFS management

Discussion in 'UK clinics and doctors' started by Cheshire, Dec 12, 2017.

  1. Sly Saint

    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I initially thought it was saying that Clare Gerada was implicated in the manslaughter charge.......badly worded.
     
  2. Sarah

    Sarah Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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  3. Sarah

    Sarah Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    @Trish - as you have seen this, could I trouble you to make this change?
     
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  4. Trish

    Trish Moderator Staff Member

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  5. chrisb

    chrisb Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    She seems unable to recognise that complaints may be on behalf of those who have been killed.

    Those tweets should have been sufficient to exclude her from the role.
     
  6. Sarah

    Sarah Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Thanks for this
     
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  7. Lidia

    Lidia Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Utterly and absolutely.
     
  8. Cheshire

    Cheshire Moderator Staff Member

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    Oh my, she's not even pretending to be impartial.

    In line with her previous gross anti-patient stance here: https://www.s4me.info/threads/clare...ggests-gp-mental-health-lead.1489/#post-26213
     
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    Sarah Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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  10. Sean

    Sean Moderator Staff Member

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    Wow. That's not good. :grumpy:
     
  11. Sarah

    Sarah Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Gerada recently used the same phrasing 'name blame, and shame' when calling out a medical student on Twitter for publicly complaining about a confidentiality breach at the student's surgery, her complaint to the surgery of which had not been taken seriously. The student had not named any individual publicly.
     
  12. chrisb

    chrisb Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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  13. Luther Blissett

    Luther Blissett Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Quoting from

    Before :
    LORD JUSTICE GROSS
    MR JUSTICE OUSELEY
    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    Between :
    GENERAL MEDICAL COUNCIL
    - and -
    DR BAWA-GARBA

    Hearing date: 7 December 2017





    Source:
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    https://www.blackstonechambers.com/documents/636/GMC_v_BAWA-GARBA.pdf


    Edited to break up paragraphs and add emphasis.
     
  14. Luther Blissett

    Luther Blissett Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    There are big risks to complaining.

    • Future discrimination
    • Psychological results if a just complaint is rejected unjustly
    • Psychological results of powerful people treating a factual recounting as fantasy
    • Allegations of being a serial complainer
    • Use of past allegations used against complainer
    • Psychological results of complaint(s) being used to try to discredit complainer as pathological
    • etc
    I'll re-frame her comment in a different context. Imagine a complaint of sexual harassment at work against a manager.

    "It’s easy to complain. No risk to complainant . Sadly they kill managers"

    If that were still her view then I won't say what I think of her.
     
  15. chrisb

    chrisb Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    There appears to be a further difficulty. That tweet about complaining being easy and no risk to the complainant was dated 10 May. The announcement looks to have been made on 21 May. Is it credible that no one else connected with the selection process was aware of it? It calls into question the whole enterprise, notwithstanding that there are legitimate questions to be asked.
     
  16. ScottTriGuy

    ScottTriGuy Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    She seems very focused and intent on pushing her motto that patients complaining kills physicians.

    And see she's now started using '#compaintskill' to help push it into twitter world. Alliteration is a good promotion tactic.

    #Clarekills is another alliterative example.
     
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  17. Sean

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    #incompetencekills
    #arrogancekills
    #psychogenicspeculationkills
     
  18. NelliePledge

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    i feel sorry for any Doctors where they are scapegoated by the organisation for systemic faults, or if they are falsely accused of something

    Clare Gerada as a reasonably intelligent person should be able to see that systemic faults will badly affect patients, and systemic faults may include generation and perpetuating of a culture of disregarding certain categories of patients, and also a culture where poor practice is not identified

    Also it is a fact that Doctors are human beings like other human beings, they are not infallible, they do make mistakes and exhibit poor behaviours.

    If the complaint system is broken mend the system do not blame patients for that failure.

    ETA #suppressingcomplaintskills
     
  19. Invisible Woman

    Invisible Woman Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    This "them and us" attitude kills.

    Patients not complaining can kill.

    I understand doctors are human and make mistakes. If they were more open and honest with patients and had a more equal relationship they would probably find patients don't want doctors scapegoated or punished unfairly.

    Complaints kill? Just move along nothing to see here.....
     
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  20. large donner

    large donner Guest

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    This is the British establishment....bring in the fixer

    Anyone follow the Grenfell investigation?
     
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