Opinion Chronic fatigue syndromes: real illnesses that people can recover from, 2023, The Oslo Chronic Fatigue Consortium

In the field of ME/CFS, a trench warfare began between individuals who wanted to see an explanation at a primarily biomedical level and others who wanted to involve the brain and behaviour to a greater extent.

No, it is a conflict between robust science and non-science. If the brain-behaviour crowd had been able to robustly demonstrate genuine sustained benefits from their 'treatments' they would not be getting any criticism.

I don't give a flying fig what the real explanation is. I just want to know what it is. What I do know for sure is that, after decades of dominance, the brain-behaviour (i.e. psychosomatic) crowd have completely failed to substantiate their hypothesis, and are doing everything they can to avoid having to face up to that.

That whole statement is a bunch of nasty dishonest Orwellian crap. Soaked through with misinformation, mischaracterisation, and misdirection from start to finish.
 
Ugh, the whole thing is a manipulating, dishonest smear-piece meant to portray this movement as rational, helpful people who are the poor victims of Very Bad People (in order to silence just criticism as unwarranted hostility), instead of the failed mind-over-body ideological crapfest it is, but to further look at just this sentence beyond Sean's excellent comment on it above:
In the field of ME/CFS, a trench warfare began between individuals who wanted to see an explanation at a primarily biomedical level and others who wanted to involve the brain and behaviour to a greater extent.
Note the language. "A trench warfare began" like it fell out of thin air, something that just happened.(Also note e.g. the use of the words "trench warfare" and the vaguely defined "individuals" and "others".)
Also note how these words and this sentence enforce the frame of an ongoing "controversy"
(Rule#1 in construct agnotology: create a controversy and keep it alive so bad activities/products can still be pushed because of the appearance of ongoing scientific uncertainty), and how this sentence follows the usual depiction of regular medicine as limited and closeminded pitted against the suggested openmindedness and superiority of a mind-over-body approach.

And of course the "others" did not just "want to involve the brain and behaviour to a greater extent" - the "to a greater extent" would still be unwarranted, but this is a motte-and-bailey argument that still can't resist to stick in quite some motte: brain and behaviour were claimed as the primary reasons for sickness and disability and the focus points for effective treatment.
 
I loved the phrase 'based on research'. How can it not have occurred to people like Garner, Sharpe, Chalder, Floptop, that to academic community a phrase like this will sound pretty much like 'my dad said'.

Coming to this very late, but prompted by the Vink & Vink preprint, I went back to the original.

Still looking through it but I did find something which I think @dave30th & @George Monbiot and others may find amusing.

They love to footnote this nonsense with sources. I saw this:

In order to maintain the dominance of this narrative any patients, clinicians, and researchers who question it may be attacked, harassed and unfairly charged with conspiring against vulnerable patients [44]. We believe such actions to be unethical and incompatible with good science and properly informed patient care.

And

[44] Nogrady B. Online harassment: a toolkit for protecting yourself from abuse. Nature. 2022;609(7925):205–207. doi:10.1038/d41586-022-02766-w

I couldn't remember Nature doing anything that recent on 'harassment' of ME researchers, so checked the article.

Online and digital harassment has had a significant impact on scientists working on issues such as climate change, gun control, vaccines and even challenging health conditions such as myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome.

'challenging health conditions such as myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome' is a link, so I followed that. It's a Guardian article from 2019.

Yes, one of the authors is quoting himself, except he's doing so by quoting a Nature article which quotes a Guardian article which quotes him.

Classic Sharpe.
 
I think it’d be helpful to have examples of this tactic to cite from the history of science (of researchers portraying themselves as dispassionate investigators of a common-sense hypothesis while the group they’re studying, who object to their work and its harms, are doing so because they’re mad/violent). I wonder if this is something ME/CFS Skeptic has encountered in their research on the history of psychosomatic medicine—surely you could find this tactic repeated whenever now-vindicated people dared to protest their dehumanization by Science.
 
A member of the Oslo Consortium seems to have made some seriously worrying changes to Region Stockholm's guidelines for ME/CFS.

@MittEremltage has blogged about it here:

Region Stockholm uppdaterar vårdprogram för ME med ovetenskapliga påståenden om KBT och gradvis utökad aktivitet
https://mitteremitage.wordpress.com...staenden-om-kbt-och-gradvis-utokad-aktivitet/

Genomgång av ändringar i vårdprogram för ME i viss.nu
https://mitteremitage.wordpress.com...-av-andringar-i-vardprogram-for-me-i-viss-nu/

(I posted about this in the News from Scandinavia thread earlier today, but wanted to mention it on this thread as well because I'm not sure how many of those who are interested in the Olso Consortium are reading that thread.)
 
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A member of the Oslo Consortium seems to have made some seriously worrying changes to Region Stockholm's guidelines for ME/CFS.

@MittEremltage has blogged about it here:

Region Stockholm uppdaterar vårdprogram för ME med ovetenskapliga påståenden om KBT och gradvis utökad aktivitet
https://mitteremitage.wordpress.com...staenden-om-kbt-och-gradvis-utokad-aktivitet/

Genomgång av ändringar i vårdprogram för ME i viss.nu
https://mitteremitage.wordpress.com...-av-andringar-i-vardprogram-for-me-i-viss-nu/

(I posted about this in the News from Scandinavia thread earlier today, but wanted to mention it on this thread as well because I'm not sure how many of those who are interested in the Olso Consortium are reading that thread.)
An update today:

Viss.nu har gjort vissa ändringar
https://mitteremitage.wordpress.com/2024/07/06/viss-nu-har-gjort-vissa-andringar/

(Posted in the News from Scandinavia thread too, with auto-translated quotes.)
 
An article by Jörgen Malmquist in SFAM's journal AllmänMedicin, issue 3-2024.

("SFAM, the Swedish Association of General Practice, is the professional and scientific college of general practitioners (family physicians) in Sweden, a non-profit organisation with about 2000 members. SFAM is affiliated to the Swedish Society of Medicine (Svenska Läkaresällskapet) as well as the Swedish Medical Association (Läkarförbundet). Main areas of interest for SFAM are continuing professional development, training of future GPs, assessment of competence, quality improvement and research in general practice/family medicine.")

Hur ska vi tänka när vi möter patienter med långvariga trötthetstillstånd?
https://allmanmedicin.sfam.se/p/all...riga-trotthetstillstand/1919/1587765/57081593
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How should we think when we encounter patients with long-term fatigue states?

Insights from an article with a rethinking analysis

All general practitioners have encountered patients with chronic fatigue where the normal work-up with a thorough history, psychiatric screening and testing does not help us in diagnosis or treatment. The concept of ME or CFS (chronic fatigue syndrome) may then appear among the things we think about.

We are always aware that a diagnosis that implies a poor prognosis and treatment pessimism can have negative effects on the patient's health and in this regard there are horrifying examples. In 2018, a whole family was found dead in a villa in Bjärred, and the motive seems to have been that the family's two daughters were both diagnosed with ME [1]. We also read in the press about a woman who sought and received help with assisted suicide in Switzerland based on this very diagnosis [2].

The words that harm

In Läkartidningen there was recently a review by psychiatry colleague Johan Bengtsson of a book discussing the concept of nocebo [3]. It is summarised as ‘the occurrence of a harmful event resulting from consciously or unconsciously expecting it’ and points to the ability of our own minds to cause suffering. It emphasises that it is not a matter of imagination, but rather of reinforcing a sensation that already existed or attributing symptoms that may have always existed to a cause that is not necessarily true, for example through a facile or erroneous diagnosis.

In Norway, the diagnosis of ME is much more common than in Sweden. In Norway, sickness absence due to tiredness/fatigue has increased by almost 70% in the last 15 years. This has been seen as an ‘epidemic of fatigue and at the same time an ME epidemic’. Many young people are also being diagnosed. In just a few years, the number of Norwegian patients with ME has increased fivefold, while the figures in Sweden and Denmark are much lower [4]. Differences in the prevalence of a diagnosis between otherwise similar countries suggest that it is what is sometimes called a cultural disease.

In Norway, however, there is also the hopeful website Recovery Norway [5], where a large number of people with credible stories testify to how they recovered from ME and similar long-term conditions with an expected poor prognosis.

From Stockholm come testimonies from colleagues in general practitioners' Facebook groups. They have received patients referred from the two now closed specialised ME clinics there. The colleagues have been reluctant to just continue with the sick leave that has been going on for years and to give intravenous treatment that has no scientific support. At the same time, they have been unsure of what to do, and the motto ‘at least don't hurt when you can't help’ has not seemed sufficient.

Hopeful article

In December 2023, an article was published in our own scientific journal, Scandinavian Journal of Primary Health Care, which may provide guidance on how general practitioners should approach the diagnosis of ME/CFS (6). The title is: Chronic fatigue syndromes: real illnesses that people can recover from. Chronic fatigue syndromes: real illnesses that people can recover from. The full text is freely available online. For the benefit of colleagues who do not have time to read SJPHC, we provide a summary of the article.

The authors of the article are 51 in number. Most are doctors, some are psychologists or therapists. The vast majority of them are based in Norway, but there are also contributors from Sweden, Finland, Denmark, England and the Netherlands. The authors' names are listed alphabetically, which means that Vegard Bruun Bratholm Wyller is listed last.

In addition to the authors' names, the article is credited to The Oslo Chronic Fatigue Consortium. The leader of this collaborative organisation is Professor Wyller. The research group is well known for its efforts to provide insights into how to understand and treat the controversial and obscure condition ME/CFS.

The authors use the term ‘chronic fatigue syndromes’ throughout, in the plural. They analyse chronic fatigue conditions as a group. They do not accept the widely held view that chronic fatigue states, including post-covid, can be incurable, that is, lifelong. They see these conditions as the brain's response to any of many biological, psychological and social factors. They find no basis for identifying any specific disease process (for example, ME/CFS).

Various specialised diagnoses such as ME/CFS, post-covid and others have questionable validity and reliability. In the case of CFS, the authors cite a WHO text from 2022 to support the critical view.

Other perspectives are needed

It is well known that, after 40 years of research on ME/CFS, there have been no results showing damage to body tissues or constituting a biomarker, i.e. an analytical result (e.g. biochemical, immunological) specific to the disease, thus making it possible to determine in a sick person that he/she has ME/CFS.

Therefore, the authors write, it is time to apply other perspectives that include psychological and social factors along with biological ones. Such an approach has long been applied to chronic pain - an experience that, like chronic fatigue, originates in the brain. Important factors are negative expectations that arise and are reinforced by frightening statements from the outside world that lead to learning and conditioning (rigid thought link).

Of course, the outside world consists primarily of all personal contacts: relatives, friends and colleagues. But today, information (accurate or misleading) from mass media, especially the internet, dominates. A special case is information, usually one-sidedly negative and frightening, put out by patient organisations.

Replace ‘chronic’ with ‘long-term’

A comment on the word chronos may be needed in this context. The Greek chronos means time. It is used in all European languages to indicate that something has to do with the measurement of time, or the passage of time. The adjective chronic usually refers to something that ‘takes time’, i.e. is long-lasting. In medicine, the term ‘chronic’ means that a disease is long-lasting. Unfortunately, in Sweden and many other countries, the meaning has shifted so that it is perceived to stand for ‘lifelong’ and ‘incurable’. That mindset is harmful. A person given the fictitious diagnosis of chronic fatigue syndrome is given the impression that they can never recover, an unfounded perception that is spread online, not least by ME/CFS organisations.

In healthcare, the word ‘chronic’ should, with few exceptions, be avoided. A case in point is ‘chronic pain’, a term that specialists have long since replaced with ‘long-term pain’.

So: it should be called long-term fatigue, long-term fatigue state or long-term fatigue syndrome. The time limit for persistence is set by various experts at three or six months.

For the general practitioner, what the article says means that we should be careful with the diagnosis of ME/CFS and that we can now refer to a large group of colleagues and researchers when we can say:

1. There is no reason to distinguish ME/CFS from other long-term fatigue.

2. We need to approach these patients with a broad approach that includes aspects of biological, psychological and social factors.

3. Patients need to be helped to think in a different way than that all effort is dangerous, so that they can gradually resume normal activities. ‘Stay active!’

4. in the absence of the possibility to meet people who have recovered from long-term fatigue syndrome, referring to the patient stories on Recovery Norway can give new hope

5. in the general medical consultation we need to face any thoughts the patient may have about negative prognosis.

No conflicts of interests.

Jörgen Malmquist
Retired specialist in internal medicine, Höllviken

Lars Englund
General practitioner, Jakobsgårdarnas vårdcentral, Borlänge
englund1@telia.com

Jörgen Malmquist was an internal medicine specialist and haematologist at Malmö University Hospital for some 20 years. After a few years in the pharmaceutical industry, he moved on to work as a commissioned writer, author and editor, including at Nationalencyklopedin. In addition to dictionaries, he has published Diagnoses under discussion (2016) and Trött hela livet. The disease ME (2020). The discussion continues on his blog: diagnosdiskussion.wordpress.com

References

1. https://www.mabra.com/medicin/me-lakaren-om-de-tragiska-dodsfallendet-ar-sa-onodigt/6648303
2. https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/sjuk-svenska-valde-att-avsluta-sitt-livutomlands/
3. https://lakartidningen.se/aktuellt/recensioner/2024/06/noceboeffekten-nar-orden-kan-skada/
4. https://livelandmark.no/me-epidemin-pa-vag-till-sverige/
5. https://www.recoverynorway.org/
6. Oslo Chronic Fatigue Consortium; Alme TN, Andreasson A, Asprusten
TT, Bakken AK, Beadsworth MB, Boye B, Brodal PA, Brodwall EM, Brurberg KG, Bugge I, Chalder T, Due R, Eriksen HR, Fink PK, Flottorp SA, Fors EA, Jensen BF, Fundingsrud HP, Garner P, Havdal LB, Helgeland H, Jacobsen HB, Johnson GE, Jonsjö M, Knoop H, Landmark L, Launes G, Lekander M, Linnros H, Lindsäter E, Liira H, Linnestad L, Loge JH, Lyby PS, Malik S, Malt UF, Moe T, Norlin AK, Pedersen M, Pignatiello SE, Rask CU, Reme SE, Roksund G, Sainio M, Sharpe M, Thorkildsen RF, van Roy B, Vandvik PO, Vogt H, Wyller HB, Wyller VBB. Chronic fatigue syndromes: real illnesses that people can recover from. Scand J Prim Health Care. 2023 Dec;41(4):372-376.
 
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It's shocking how much credence is given to unevidenced theories like this just because the authors want it to be true. The power of eminence and prejudice is shocking. I think this also demonstrates the dangeŕs of conflating ME/CFS with other fatiguing conditions.
 
Ah magic all we need to do is change the description from chronic to long-term and that will give the hope that will make everything so much better.

Lightweight thinking.
The amount of people (also in health care) who use the terms interchangeably anyway is quite high. And a definition of «chronic» is «lasting for more than six months» with no mention of that it doesn’t end at some point.
 
It all sounds like the unscientific media centre playbook. A playbook that seems to get more and more traction.

A web of unscience, politics, media that seems very powerful and connected.

We need charities that can stand up to that power, however they seem connected in this web or are underfunded or understaffed.

We need powerful people in politics, media and science on our side, we need lobbying we need big campaigns to inform people.
 
An article by Jörgen Malmquist in SFAM's journal AllmänMedicin, issue 3-2024.

("SFAM, the Swedish Association of General Practice, is the professional and scientific college of general practitioners (family physicians) in Sweden, a non-profit organisation with about 2000 members. SFAM is affiliated to the Swedish Society of Medicine (Svenska Läkaresällskapet) as well as the Swedish Medical Association (Läkarförbundet). Main areas of interest for SFAM are continuing professional development, training of future GPs, assessment of competence, quality improvement and research in general practice/family medicine.")

Hur ska vi tänka när vi möter patienter med långvariga trötthetstillstånd?
https://allmanmedicin.sfam.se/p/all...riga-trotthetstillstand/1919/1587765/57081593
"Webster's dictionary defines the word cringe as" you know what it doesn't matter but damn is this cringe-worthy meandering drivel.

This is beyond death of expertise and firmly into death of reason. And of basic attachment to facts. They are basically pretending that this is a new approach, when many of the people involved in this have literally been creating and promoting widespread adoption of this exact same thing, which millions have been subjected to for decades. Why make such an obvious blatant lie? When they could instead say this has been the standard of care for decades?

This coming from an authoritative body of medical professionals is basically a 5 alarm warning sign that medicine is losing grips with reality and even the authoritative bodies have just stopped bothering to make sense. It's as absurd as some cultural conservative activists talking about the never-before-tried idea of criminalizing drug use and traffic because the current free-for-all drugs-available-to-everyone approach has failed. It's beyond absurd, it's batshit insane.

And apparently completely oblivious, or covering up, Long Covid and how it is behind the increase in some countries, with the difference simply being that some countries just don't allow ME/CFS to be diagnosed.

They are talking about a massive increase in diagnoses, and refer to RecoveryNorway's credible (really?) record of recoveries. There are 84. Out of something like several thousands. This includes a few oddballs like Garner's and Landmark's. This stuff should be target of mockery from professionals as much as flat Earth and weather control through electromagnetic waves.

How the hell are people supposed to trust GPs when they say credible things if they choose to spew complete nonsense like this? When you can't tell if someone is telling the truth or bullshitting you? Which is pretty much rule #1 for experts: do not bullshit, do not lie or make stuff up, because the next time you speak people will treat it with suspicion, and rightly so.

AI medicine can't come soon enough. Humans are too faillible to be trusted with the lives of complete strangers. Even the famous AI hallucinations aren't nearly as bad as this nonsense.
 
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