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    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Health officials say Louisiana patient is first severe bird flu case in US
    Health officials say Louisiana patient is first severe bird flu case in US
     
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    Twenty big cats die of bird flu at sanctuary in Washington state
    Twenty big cats die of bird flu at sanctuary in Washington state
     
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    I keep forgetting to wash my hands after topping up the bird feeders and really should wash the feeders more frequently.
     
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    We've stopped using bird feeders, and now just buy RSPB half coconut shells filled with some sort of fat with seeds in. They hang up, and can be thrown away after.

    The spread of bird flu across species does seem pretty alarming.
     
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    Here in California, I think people are advised not to have bird feeders anymore.

    I donated some egg yolks recently to a bird rescue group and thought: these folks are really brave to be working with wild birds here.
     
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    Bird flu 'may be mutating to become more transmissible to humans'
    Bird flu 'may be mutating to become more transmissible to humans'
     
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    More than 70 percent of California’s dairy cow herds are infected with bird flu. Here’s what to know
    More than 70 percent of California’s dairy cow herds are infected with bird flu. Here’s what to know
     
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    I noticed some hospitals making calls to the public to wear masks when they go there to help with the surge of flu. Because it's only the flu that's surging. Also there's a quad-demic, but it's all flu. Yes, so much flu, which isn't a concern at all. Unless it is.

    After having said for years that COVID is just the flu, therefore there is no need to worry or bother with things such as wearing masks, let alone respirators, even less so improving ventilation, which is giving in to fear, or whatever.

    Which will definitely not at all be a major problem if bird flu hits, and those years of "it's the flu, nothing to worry about" backfire again, having already backfired.

    And sometimes I wonder how humanity ever got to use metal tools without just amputating all our limbs on the first day.
     
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    A 13-year-old girl in Canada with #H5N1 required mechanical ventilation, ECMO, CRRT, plasma exchange, and 3 antivirals.

    I can’t stress this enough, but these extraordinary interventions are NOT typical for respiratory pathogens. Here are her chest X-rays 1 day apart, admission and the following day—highlighting how rapidly this progressed. We must do more now before we see more cases like this.
    https://twitter.com/user/status/1874556700189168114
     
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    The BC teen with H5N1 BirdFlu was saved by ECMO. ECMO is the highest level of LIFE SUPPORT. It is the last resort for patients with severe heart or lung failure. ECMO wholly or partly replaces the function of the patient’s own heart and/or lungs. It is NOT freely available.
     
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    Critical Illness in an Adolescent with Influenza A(H5N1) Virus Infection
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    we weep


    revise risk. first thereto revise "potential"

    Human transmission was predicted pre and post Covid-Pandemic. It was predicted and predictable and now again inevitable, in my assessment the conditions guaranteed it a while back. These conditions were not inadvertent nor unavoidable.

    We will lose the "normal" we got back to if it kills us. Then we will never see "normal" again. Twice bitten thrice shy. Three strikes and you're out. SO civilised we do like a close shave. It is not "potential" it is upon us. Now re-assess risk ("catastrophic risk" is the permanent: disability / decline / death)

    Did they run a genetic assay to be so sure its not jumpiing between humans already ? Asymptomatic ones. Little trick it learnt 5 years ago. Can they tell ?

    They told a lot looking at the Covid versions genetically. They told the difference between bat and lab sourcing, no lab sourcing then, but I don't recall if they said they can tell what it looks like once its mutated to jump around species.

    As this one already did jump to and around land animals, why would any body think it cannot jump to and around humans, we need to know what can the science know before we go bat-shit crazy speculating that we cannot be told

    Because the the birds were dead in their millions already. The Govt (UK) got Cobra onto it, discreetly put the hens into lockdown, very discreet, not in the news until coming out of lockdown, hen-houses declared safe again

    Not foot and mouth, birds are air-bourne, unlike pigs, pigs can't fly, fact, but what WAS in the news during the hen-house lockdown, was they died in flocks north of Scotland .... moving down to the English coasts ....Devon, Cornwall, even something in the water, all normal, nothing to see here, move on, get a life, animals must move, runt

    Can they tell genetically that a virus still cannot transmit between people, after they can see clinically that it jumped to people already ? Could they tell genetically before finding it in people whether it had the capability for cross-species transmission ?

    what clue did they find in birds and 4-leggers and so assess risk to decide that this cross-species transmission was only a "potential" in the human case ?

    If they just quietly panicked and decided not to panick us too then it is not a good look. Do they even have a quality evidence-base ?

    We do disturb all bird habitats ...until birds give us their flu
     
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    Leading Public Health Figure Calls on Biden to Authorize Bird Flu Vaccine

    There have been 66 confirmed bird flu cases in the U.S., all but one of which caused only mild illness, and there have been no reports of human-to-human transmission of the virus.


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    There are currently over 5000 people in hospital in England because of flu - including my neighbour :(
     
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    Predicting H5N1 disease severity based on T cell responses
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    Predicting H5N1 disease severity based on T cell responses
     
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    Quad-demic?
     
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