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Article Independent: ‘As lockdown eases, those of us with chronic illnesses must not be left behind’ June 2020
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Snowdrop
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Back in the 'old days' days we all here remember from not so long ago, any of a number of recent articles like this one would be followed by swift and cutting replies from the BPS brigade. They would follow within a few days and picked up seemingly everywhere at once on social media.
First the trolls stopped posting comments en masse and now it seems the newspapers don't feel a need to quote, throughout the text, the BPSers to frame the story with their particular narrative of our illness. Whatever next.
There's still the possibility of a big spread to come, taking back the 'we are the final solution' 'people with ME hate us for no reason' 'we as researchers deserve better than to have these people seen as deserving of basic respect as human beings'* narrative that they have been so good at in the past.
But so far it's all quiet. A nice reprieve.
*Of course they would deny that blatant framing of people with ME. But as we well know, that's exactly how we've been treated by them despite their protest to the contrary. And they did that by simple not listening to us. By constantly gaslighting.
If we said we did not think our illness was being perpetuated by psychological factors they'd reframe it and tell the world we were disrespecting the mental health community. If anyone dared speak up about poor quality research they were militants who had no business sticking their nose into things they didn't understand. If we pointed out inconsistencies in the narrative we were labelled a powerful lobby group and so on.
All aided and abetted by the news who followed the eminence is always right school of thought.
Just IMO but I don't feel that the press has 'balanced' those years of gaslighting yet. Time for more and better articles on ME.
I know this article was not specifically on ME. But it's so much better than most anything even a year ago in UK news press. And so I'm using it to cheer for a future with less gaslighting by BPS cabal.
First the trolls stopped posting comments en masse and now it seems the newspapers don't feel a need to quote, throughout the text, the BPSers to frame the story with their particular narrative of our illness. Whatever next.
There's still the possibility of a big spread to come, taking back the 'we are the final solution' 'people with ME hate us for no reason' 'we as researchers deserve better than to have these people seen as deserving of basic respect as human beings'* narrative that they have been so good at in the past.
But so far it's all quiet. A nice reprieve.
*Of course they would deny that blatant framing of people with ME. But as we well know, that's exactly how we've been treated by them despite their protest to the contrary. And they did that by simple not listening to us. By constantly gaslighting.
If we said we did not think our illness was being perpetuated by psychological factors they'd reframe it and tell the world we were disrespecting the mental health community. If anyone dared speak up about poor quality research they were militants who had no business sticking their nose into things they didn't understand. If we pointed out inconsistencies in the narrative we were labelled a powerful lobby group and so on.
All aided and abetted by the news who followed the eminence is always right school of thought.
Just IMO but I don't feel that the press has 'balanced' those years of gaslighting yet. Time for more and better articles on ME.
I know this article was not specifically on ME. But it's so much better than most anything even a year ago in UK news press. And so I'm using it to cheer for a future with less gaslighting by BPS cabal.
Samuel
Senior Member (Voting Rights)
> Just IMO but I don't feel that the press has 'balanced' those years of gaslighting yet. Time for more and better articles on ME.
i agree with @Snowdrop.
i don't think allowing the event that pwme are still experiencing to pass quietly into unread and uncurated history will do pwme, today's misopathized disease populations, or future disease populations any favors.
pwme are dying. multiply that by the persecuted diseases in general and those that are being groomed for that role.
but it gets worse.
some places in the world as we speak are not doing triage normally or will soon not do so. they will do catastrophic triage. seat of the pants triage. prejudice triage. political triage.
hospitals overwhelmed, everything built up since the age of reason gets thrown out the window.
which populations lose in this case? ones perceived as burdens to society.
and it gets even more bad.
action t4 has to be kept in mind in a world that is a tinderbox. every national, religious, racial, ethnic, ideological, political, dogmatic, you name it group has an axe to grind. outgroups will be sought. no question.
despite this the problem is unknown. nobody thinks about it.
it is there in every age. but it is never named, rarely thought of, still more rarely directly addressed or coherently covered.
it gets mentioned occasionally only. compare to other persecutions and you will see what i mean.
the solution has many parts. just liek the solution to any perecution.
but impunity is one of the biggest problems we face in stopping existing and future persecutions.
why impunity, you ask? can we not just let bygones be bygones? make a few reforms here and there? no need for anything fundamental?
i have already answered that and will answer it again:
---> without consquences to individual perpetrators, the stupendous heights to which a regime of persecution can rise becomes a lower bound for persecutions to come. anything else can be and will be worse. <---
and this is a persecution that has no structure for collective memory. history will repeat.
in this vein what's needed is to use all forms of law, media, and every other channel to impose consequences for persecution of all and any disease populations.
i agree with @Snowdrop.
i don't think allowing the event that pwme are still experiencing to pass quietly into unread and uncurated history will do pwme, today's misopathized disease populations, or future disease populations any favors.
pwme are dying. multiply that by the persecuted diseases in general and those that are being groomed for that role.
but it gets worse.
some places in the world as we speak are not doing triage normally or will soon not do so. they will do catastrophic triage. seat of the pants triage. prejudice triage. political triage.
hospitals overwhelmed, everything built up since the age of reason gets thrown out the window.
which populations lose in this case? ones perceived as burdens to society.
and it gets even more bad.
action t4 has to be kept in mind in a world that is a tinderbox. every national, religious, racial, ethnic, ideological, political, dogmatic, you name it group has an axe to grind. outgroups will be sought. no question.
despite this the problem is unknown. nobody thinks about it.
it is there in every age. but it is never named, rarely thought of, still more rarely directly addressed or coherently covered.
it gets mentioned occasionally only. compare to other persecutions and you will see what i mean.
the solution has many parts. just liek the solution to any perecution.
but impunity is one of the biggest problems we face in stopping existing and future persecutions.
why impunity, you ask? can we not just let bygones be bygones? make a few reforms here and there? no need for anything fundamental?
i have already answered that and will answer it again:
---> without consquences to individual perpetrators, the stupendous heights to which a regime of persecution can rise becomes a lower bound for persecutions to come. anything else can be and will be worse. <---
and this is a persecution that has no structure for collective memory. history will repeat.
in this vein what's needed is to use all forms of law, media, and every other channel to impose consequences for persecution of all and any disease populations.
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