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Anxiety and depression – new report 2020

Discussion in 'Health News and Research unrelated to ME/CFS' started by Sly Saint, Jan 31, 2020.

  1. Sly Saint

    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    The National Clinical Audit of Anxiety and Depression (NCAAD) has published a new report following an audit of psychological therapies provided in secondary mental health care settings.

    https://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/members/y...ression-report?dm_i=3S89,13323,2H3J22,3SCFB,1

    cbt watch on the report:
    http://www.cbtwatch.com/
     
    alktipping, JohnM, Cheshire and 8 others like this.
  2. rvallee

    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Hey, if you don't measure it, no one can claim it's been shown not to work.
    You would find the same thing in most alternative medicine and various pseudosciences, this is not a valid reason for clinical services. Liking something is not the same thing as being effective or even a reason for funding such a service. If that's the metric, might as well just create a service where people go to be complimented. People would like the crap out of that. And so what?

    I would say the same of my experience with a therapist. One of the first things I tried after meeting the wall of "we don't know what to do here". It was a nice enough experience. Utterly useless, though. It was pretty cheap but still too expensive because it was utterly useless at addressing my medical needs. I'd say about a 3/5 on the likeability scale. But it's a plain 0/5 on the effective and relevance-to-the-actual-issues scale.

    There isn't even a proper reliable test for either so any claims of being effective are worthless anyway. It's a bunch of guesstimates scrambled through mathemagics. The biggest issue remains being able to identify you are actually dealing with something relevant to mental health. All evidence shows that even the thought leaders in this field are not capable of that, in fact seem utterly incapable of doing that because of ideological anchoring.
     
  3. James Morris-Lent

    James Morris-Lent Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    People also feel this way about every supplement available based on Amazon reviews. This is just a marketing line.
     
  4. Hutan

    Hutan Moderator Staff Member

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    https://www.france24.com/en/20190710-outrage-france-govt-cancels-coverage-homeopathic-medicine
     

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