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ACTIB trial (Assessing Cognitive behavioural Therapy in Irritable Bowel): a multicentre randomised controlled trial, 2015, Chalder et al

Discussion in 'PsychoSocial ME/CFS Research' started by Sly Saint, Jun 5, 2018.

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    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    From 2015 but to be presented in a talk in July at the Society for Academic Primary Care conference:
    https://sapc.ac.uk/conference/2018

    https://sapc.ac.uk/conference/2018/...cognitive-behavioural-therapy-irritable-bowel

    one of the co-authors is Susan Windgassen (!):giggle:
     
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    more self report forms after brainwashing by therapist mmm so much space for bias/bs
     
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    IBS - yet another medical condition that the medical profession can't (be bothered to) find real reasons for, so blame the patients' mental health. It is also a really good diagnosis for any doctor with any patient with a pain vaguely in the gut region. I'm sure it reduces the work load substantially.
     
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    Think this is might be a 'spin off' :
    Patients’ perspectives on GP interactions after cognitive behavioural therapy for refractory IBS: a qualitative study in UK primary and secondary care

    Alice Sibelli, Rona Moss-Morris, Trudie Chalder, Felicity L Bishop, Sula Windgassen and Hazel Everitt

    https://bjgp.org/content/68/674/e654

    CBT, the solution to the staff shortage in the NHS(?)

    "Only CBT participants reported a shared responsibility with their doctors concerning symptom management and an intention to reduce health-seeking behaviour."
     
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    Does this mean what it seems to mean. My translation: Only CBT participants had started blaming themselves if they didn't improve, and reported they would give up bothering the doctor and trying to get better.

    Is this supposed to be a good outcome?

    :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:
     
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    When this whole IAPT project is understood as a cost-cutting measure by providing cheap alternative to medical care, it is definitely a good outcome according to them and everything they say and do starts to make sense.

    There ain't no cheaper patients for a health care system than those who have stopped seeking care. Massively more expensive overall for society, but on the single balance sheet of medical services, it definitely gives the illusion that it is a bargain.
     
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    God forbid that patients might seek ways of getting healthy!
     
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