XMRV and Public Health: The Retroviral Genome Is Not a Suitable Template for Diagnostic PCR, ... ME/CFS, 2017, Panelli et al

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XMRV and Public Health: The Retroviral Genome Is Not a Suitable Template for Diagnostic PCR, and Its Association with Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Appears Unreliable
Panelli et al

A few years ago, a highly significant association between the xenotropic murine leukemia virus-related virus (XMRV) and myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS), a complex debilitating disease of poorly understood etiology and no definite treatment, was reported in Science, raising concern for public welfare. Successively, the failure to reproduce these findings, and the suspect that the diagnostic PCR was vitiated by laboratory contaminations, led to the retraction of the paper. Notwithstanding, XMRV continued to be the subject of researches and public debates. Occasional positivity in humans was also detected recently, even if the data always appeared elusive and non-reproducible.
In this study, we discuss the current status of this controversial association and propose that a major role in the unreliability of the results was played by the XMRV genomic composition in itself. In this regard, we present bioinformatic analyses that show: (i) aspecific, spurious annealings of the available primers in multiple homologous sites of the human genome; (ii) strict homologies between whole XMRV genome and interspersed repetitive elements widespread in mammalian genomes.
To further detail this scenario, we screen several human and mammalian samples by using both published and newly designed primers. The experimental data confirm that available primers are far from being selective and specific. In conclusion, the occurrence of highly conserved, repeated DNA sequences in the XMRV genome deeply undermines the reliability of diagnostic PCRs by leading to artifactual and spurious amplifications. Together with all the other evidences, this makes the association between the XMRV retrovirus and CFS totally unreliable.

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpubh.2017.00108/full
 
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Based on the above excerpt it doesn't look, to me, like that's what is being said.

It looks as if they are saying that the primers, not the samples, are not providing enough accuracy and so are/have been producing inconsistent results.

In short that we/they don't have the tools needed to test the hypothesis.

Which is 'odd' in that my understanding was that labs all over the place could reliably detect XMRV if XMRV itself was tested, it was only when they looked for it in ME/CFS samples that 'inconsistencies' and lack of replicatably results occurred.

Which doesn't sound like a primer problem to me - either the primer can bind to it or not - but I'm not a person who knows anything about things that exist, or might exist, and I know even less about things that don't, exist.
 
No, that was not what happened. The labs were able to find XMRV in their control samples when they used a relatively large sample and one where they knew the exact genome. This is not relevant to real life as retroviruses are rarely an exact genetic match. HIV for instance comes in many different forms which keep changing so lab kits need to be continually kept up to date.

It also does not spend much time in the blood stream so an infection cannot always be detected. Again HIV can only be detected and treated when it is in a free form in the blood. They infected gibbons with XMRV and their blood was clear after a few weeks but their lymph nodes were full of virus.

They never found the source of contamination just said it must be there, despite the fact that all the samples should have been positive if contamination was widespread. They said that their samples were all negative so XMRV did not cause ME but they then claimed that the positive samples were because of contamination. Does not compute!

Koalas are dying from a mouse leukaemia like virus, but it is very difficult to detect not at all the easy way they claimed it should be if it was involved in human ill health.

I don't think XMRV is the cause of ME but I can't see how we can avoid having a mouse leukaemia like virus given most mammals do when we have lived in close proximity with mice for generations.
 
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