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What the Gardasil Testing May Have Missed

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS News' started by akrasia, Dec 26, 2017.

  1. akrasia

    akrasia Established Member

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    Mods, this article straddles a couple of categories so please go ahead and transfer it if it's not the right place. It's a long read describing the onset of m.e. following hard upon a vaccination with Gardisil.

    Its focus is primarily on the problematic collection of data during the clinical trial, which he argues was both sloppy and short sighted. It seems to me that the author, a Danish writer, is sympathetic to the suggestion that the woman, who is central to his narrative, may have developed the illness as a result of the injection. He takes m.e. very seriously and might be a good person for a q and a about the disease and its politics in Denmark.

    https://slate.com/health-and-scienc...made-it-harder-to-properly-assess-safety.html
     
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  2. Amw66

    Amw66 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Merck had only a 2 week window for adverse effects - anything outwith this was not attributed to the vaccination. Many side effects, falling outwith this period were not noted as such, and this may be where ther are problems .The reporting parameters ate weird.
     
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    Amw66 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Apologies - phone keypad, larger fingers and too many glasses of wine -the reporting parameters are weird!
     
  4. Woolie

    Woolie Committee member

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    This is a really good article. Not trying to be sensationalist or to arouse panic, just stating that adverse events reporting in drug trials is not as good as we think it is.

    I thought this line was terribly astute - and it reminded me of what happened in the PACE trial.
    Edit: I tend to think that the rare instances of MECFS following HPV are not a reason to refuse the vax (mainly because I suspect the trigger event for MECFS is not the cause of the illness, its just the straw that pushes our crap immune systems over their limit). But still, I agree that this should investigated more thoroughly.
     
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  5. akrasia

    akrasia Established Member

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    A couple of other questions for me are: do vaccinations pose a risk once you are sick; and as a corollary to what @Woolie wrote is it more the proverbial straw or an emergence of an occluded latency, the tiger that was ready to spring

    Of course, the article, implicitly,describes the failure of the epidemiology of m.e. and the lack of research into the pathophysiology of the disease.
     
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  6. Amw66

    Amw66 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Of the 5 people i know with ME, 4 were linked to vaccinations. I' m pretty sure that immune systems were compromised, and that vaccinations overloaded the system
     
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  7. Mij

    Mij Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I received 4 vaccinations following my sudden viral onset. My noticeable loss of stamina started soon after my second Hep B shot.
     
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