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US healthcare providers receive CME credit for watching Unrest and new diagnosis and management video

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS news' started by Joh, Sep 24, 2018.

  1. Joh

    Joh Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    From the Unrest website:

    Watch Unrest and receive CME credit

    US healthcare providers can now watch Unrest and receive continuing education credits through the American Medical Women’s Association and Indiana University School of Medicine.


    THE FOLLOWING STEPS WILL TAKE APPROXIMATELY TWO HOURS:
    1. Register

    2. Open your email to receive the code for the film

    3. Watch Unrest

    4. Watch a 10 minute clip about the diagnosis and management of ME

    5. Take the online test

    More info: https://www.unrest.film/cme/
     
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  2. Joh

    Joh Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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  3. CFS_for_19_years

    CFS_for_19_years Established Member (Voting Rights)

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    Message regarding CME credit for watching Unrest sent to my PCP here in the US. Let's see if he bites.:nailbiting:
     
  4. Sly Saint

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    Unrest Film

    Published on Oct 16, 2018 This video on the diagnosis and management of myalgic encephalomyelitis and chronic fatigue syndrome is part of the Unrest Continuing Education module, made available through the American Medical Women’s Association and Indiana University School of Medicine, and in partnership with #MEAction. US medical providers can visit: https://www.unrest.film/cme to register to watch Unrest online for free and receive Continuing Education credit. Are you a patient or ally interested in organizing Continuing Education screenings of Unrest for medical providers? Learn more here: http://meaction.net/unrest-ce

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC9TjgE_PlU


     
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  5. Trish

    Trish Moderator Staff Member

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    I think that's a really good video. I hope lots of doctors watch it.
     
  6. Alvin

    Alvin Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Well made video, though a couple references to the movie make it ideal to watch Unrest first
    My suggestion would have been to edit those out and reword it a bit so watching it would be unnecessary, though it already mostly is unnecessary.
     
  7. Amw66

    Amw66 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Can we try for this in UK?
     
  8. JenB

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    So glad you like the video! Just to clarify, this is the video that doctors are meant to view directly after they watch Unrest in order to receive credit, which is why it is so closely tied to the film. Although we had the option to accredit the film alone, we really wanted to give physicians a way to take what is an experiential learning experience (the film) and structure that learning in practical ways to help them diagnose/recognize the disease and help patients manage symptoms.

    Our goal is to accredit the film in other countries (right now, we are talking with potential partners in Canada, Australia and in the UK). Depending on the requirements of medical accreditation in these countries, we’d likely reshoot a version of this video with an expert doctor in each location, modifying the script for local needs.

    My hope in the long-run is to work with various partners to create longer-form (more-in-depth, technical) educational training modules but hopefully Unrest + the video can pique interest and be a “gateway drug” for medical providers to start taking an interest in ME.

    We also want to create less technical, accessible educational videos for the public and newly diagnosed patients. Everything always takes longer than we would hope. But we’ll get there, step-by-step!
     
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  9. Sly Saint

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    Mobilize your Medical Providers to Watch Unrest for Credit

    We are so thrilled to announce that US healthcare providers – including doctors, nurses, pharmacists, therapists and social workers – can now watch Unrest and receive continuing education credits through the American Medical Women’s Association and Indiana University School of Medicine, in partnership with #MEAction.

    Healthcare providers can attend a live, continuing education event screening of Unrest – at a theater, hospital, university, clinic or community center – or register to watch Unrest online; watch a 10-minute video on the diagnosis & management of ME by Dr. David Kaufman; take a short test; and receive 2.0 American Medical Association PRA Category 1 Credits™."

    https://www.meaction.net/2018/10/17...r-credit/?mc_cid=2f64a9f4e3&mc_eid=c1fdea04b1
     
  10. Alvin

    Alvin Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    That makes a lot of sense now, he mentioned names that people would not know unless they watched the movie and i wondered why some things had implied context from Unrest so i get it now.

    That is awesome, my GP recently retired and i got a new graduate as a replacement who knew nothing about ME, i printed a review written a few years back and gave it to her to read but videos designed for doctors would be great. Not too long ago i had listened to the podcasts from Figure 1 which were very interesting, i wonder if they would ever consider doing an ME clip. I might try to summon the energy to ask them.
    https://figure1.com/ddx/

    This would be great to have as references so i really look forward to seeing them :)
     
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  11. Joh

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    I missed this thread when it was posted but this is very good news. If it were also accredited in Canada that would be great :)
     
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    I hope lots of doctors watch. When I saw the training video I was blown away by how good it is.

    Thanks for all the work that goes into this project!
     
  17. Hutan

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    I had a look at this today, to evaluate it for use in patient guidance:

    0.38 Says that ME/CFS affects a list of body systems, including the brain and gastrointestinal systems. I imagine having a cold affects lots of body systems too, even eating dinner affects lots of body systems. But 'affecting lots of body systems' is not really the thing to lead with, especially when we aren't completely sure that the effect is significant. The statement doesn't really inform people and can come across as naively trying to make the disease sound 'complex' and exaggerate its severity.

    0.53 I think this may be the source, or at least a source, of what I think is the misleading idea that HHV6 is a trigger of ME/CFS. Given that most people get HHV6 when they are a child, it doesn't seem likely that an HHV6 infection is a trigger of ME/CFS. It's possible that it reactivates around the time of ME/CFS onset, due to the person being immunocompromised, in the same way that HSV also often reactivates. Maybe it's even that cause of ME/CFS. But, I don't think it's accurate to say that we know it is a trigger in the same way that EBV or SARS-CoV-2 are.

    2.03 Definition of PEM, allows immediate exacerbation of symptoms which I think contributes to a confusion between PEM and fatiguability
    2.08 Requires that the core symptoms have to be moderate to severe and present at least 50% of the time. I think that's in one of the criteria, but it doesn't really make sense.
    A substantial reduction in activity - that really has to be present all of the time, as it's an average of activity.
    Fatigue - if activity levels are reduced enough, there might not be a feeling of fatigue 50% or more of the time
    PEM - for many people, they won't have PEM more than 50% of the time. For many people, they can reduce their activity levels to avoid that.
    Unrefreshing sleep - I guess that could be present at least 50% of the time
    Cognitive impairment - as for fatigue, if activity levels are reduced enough, there might not be cognitive impairment 50% or more of the time
    Orthostatic intolerance - as for cognitive impairment​

    3.56 Orthostatic intolerance - is defined as the inability to regulate heart rate and/or blood pressure while upright, and the video says it is confirmed with a tilt table test. I think we prefer to say that OI is the experiencing of symptoms when upright. OI can still be present when no abnormalities with heart rate or blood pressure are measured. The video makes it sound too cut and dried - you do the TTT or the Nasa lean test, and if the patient's heart rate increases by the required amount, or their blood pressure drops by the required amount, then they have OI (and therefore if those changes don't happen, then they don't). But, we know that the response to being upright can vary from day to day and during the day. If someone regularly experiences symptoms as a result of staying upright, then they have OI.

    6.20 Co-morbidities and stuff about auto-antibodies - I think this content pushes at the boundaries and goes beyond what we can claim with confidence

    7.40 The content explaining the wide range of severities is good

    8.15 - gives the recovery rate of 5% for adults, without explaining that lots of people recover in the first two years. Also, does not explain that we don't have good data about recovery rates, so the 5% is just a guess. Instead that figure is presented with confidence.

    9.30 - it's clearly against GET - very good

    10.00 - a slide is headed 'NSAIDS Recommendations' and then lists 'celecoxib, low dose naltrexone, tramadol'. But the last two aren't NSAIDS, which means the video will lose credibility with people who know this. And it endorses the use of low dose naltrexone for pain, I'm not sure if that is correct.

    10.10 - it mentions sleep hygiene and that if sleep improves, other symptoms may improve - but it doesn't give a warning about how sleep hygiene, sleep restriction and an unreasonably strict approach to correction of inverted sleep patterns and napping may just make everyone in the family miserable. It doesn't say that we don't know if restricting hours of sleep is safe in ME/CFS.

    11.00 some good content about how doctors can support people with ME/CFS.


    Look, I know I'm being picky here and pretty much every video about ME/CFS of any length will have something that can reasonably be questioned. We need videos and it's a usually a situation of 'close enough is good enough'. But I think there are too many issues with this one to use it for educating health professionals and patients. I also think the relationship with the Unrest movie is a drawback, as I don't think the movie was helpful in getting skeptical health professionals and family member on board. I think the same applies to a lot of the clips of the person who was the main focus of that movie that are used in this video - they distract from the messages.

    So, I don't think this is a great resource to use for education.
     
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  18. Sean

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    2.03 Definition of PEM, allows immediate exacerbation of symptoms which I think contributes to a confusion between PEM and fatiguability

    This a serious problem.
     
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  19. Andy

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    All major ME/CFS criteria include immediate exacerbation of symptoms in their descriptions of PEM - that is the most serious problem.
     
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    Things have moved on in the last 5 years.
     

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