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UK: Psychological tyranny prescribed by the DWP: preventable harm is government policy, 2018, Stewart

Discussion in 'Other psychosomatic news and research' started by Andy, Feb 14, 2019.

  1. Andy

    Andy Committee Member

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    https://bjgp.org/content/68/677/579
     
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    Inara Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I find this quite interesting. I always wondered how it can be that the assessor disregarded all the medical reports, just like that, as if it wasn't time- and energy- and money-consuming for all parties, and instead already knew it's psychosomatic. I already felt it must be institutional. That's in Germany though, and here no one admits that it's policy. But now I understand.

    I don't know where it was, but someone pointed out that the DWP is a company. The German DRV writes on their homepage: "Information about the company" and "company profile". (But it's not a GmbH like other agencies.)
    https://www.deutsche-rentenversiche...rnehmen/infos_zum_unternehmen_index_node.html

    I am wondering if I'd get a reply if I made a FOI-request about this: Are there official instructions about the dismissal of medical reports?
     
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    Wonko Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Something along the lines of medical reports are always reviewed before a decision is made.

    In practice only relevant medical reports are reviewed, and all medical reports not completed by one of the DWPs client companies, within 3 months, are not relevant. The DWP ignored a report, done for them, by an ATOS doctor, that was only 6 months old, in favour of one done by a paramedic who didn't even seem to know what diabetes was, let alone ME or aspergers. To save some money, or hit a target. They don't care about what's right, what's fair, only what they can get away with.

    So whatever they say the way it's actually done seems obvious.
     
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    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Geez, at least try to phrase it a bit differently than "work will set you to take responsibility for your own financial future".

    This reeks of "the only disability is a bad attitude" inspiration porn. Spoken like a person who has only ever experienced privilege.
     
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    Esther12 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    A different viewpoint in the comments section:

    https://bjgp.org/content/68/677/579/tab-e-letters
     
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    Roy S Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    This puzzles me. Who estimated that figure, and on what basis was it arrived at?

    Once someones commited suicide then, after the costs of getting someone to confirm they are probably dead, and the cost of setting fire to them, where does the other £1,699,000 go?
     
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  8. Sean

    Sean Moderator Staff Member

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    From that article:
    Even if you grant that this outcome was not what they intended, then at the very least the BPS advocates have proven beyond any doubt to be incompetent, callous, and utter cowards at facing up to the result of their rampant megalomania.

    At this point they should be required to show extraordinarily good cause why they should not be immediately dismissed from all positions of authority, with no possibility of being allowed anywhere near one again.

    :mad::mad::mad:
     
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  9. rvallee

    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Probably from actuarial estimates of a full productive adult life. I've seen some estimates that such a life is worth something like $6-7M on aggregate, based on how much people contribute economically, through work and taxes and so on. It's more about lost opportunity than actual expenses. Although on that last point suicide is less expensive than lifelong chronic illness so we're even more expensive than that.
     
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