bicentennial
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THANKYOU @Suffolkres thankyou, I will need to read this when its easier.
Here is what I know about Occupational Health and Occupational Therapy of the UK variety
I gather that Occupational Health Medicine, like Sports and Vetinary Medicines can provide knowledge and insights on atypical symptoms not usually recognised when seen in other clinics eg occupational hazards like sensitisation to traces of a substance due to long exposure at work.
As often happens with hazards, scant attention is available for such hazards in the home and when the workplace is someone else's home.
Some jobs require OH assessments before they can be allocated or reasonably adjusted for a disability, or resumed after absence, or medically retired from with entitled disability income.
Some jobs require regular re-assessment for medical fitness and/or regular testing investigation for toxic hazards at work.
The OH assessor can be biased in favour of the employer, less likely to be biased in favour of the employee unless paid to mount their application, or else truly independent. Either way anyone who disagrees can be called a softie or draconian. In dispute its a higly unpleasant arena
It seems to be one of those jobs its is cheaper to pay a substitute to do when expanding the market. So in the UK some iffy international corporations collared the new market in "Advisory" welfare assessment for work-capacity and work-rehab.
These corps employed a motley assortment of lesser qualified beings and gave them biasing bonuses to strike people out of life-support which cull provided the bulk-funding Govt (UK) with customer satisfaction (in return for good custom)
It would be so much more effective to stop with the bulk-funded subsidy and let the the consumer choose their provider
In the UK it looks like the self-identified Physician Associates are a new, ambitious and misleading profession, self-identified by themselves or by their cheapskate employers.
Once ganged up they all made some exaggerated claims but were headed off at the pass by the Membership of a Royal College of Physicians, after the lethal boo-boos began.
The RCP Executive, being too thick, got headed off too.
I gather the Physician Associates can do well within strict limits, are fine if not over-challenged, need medical supervison for that, and also operate in the USA.
I doubt they can provide a cheapo substitute for the Doctors of Occupational Health Medicine who do the occupational risk assessments, but I am sure the corps don't mind if they do
Truly there is no profit in a Govt welfare contract - nor in a privatised national utility contract - providing the essential commodities of life affordably for everyone in need. Its just an excuse to trade assets and borrow lots of dosh.
benefits to styoicalsymptoms sorts Medicine
On the other hand there are many things an Occupational Health Therapist may be employed to do outside of the "integrated" heath and community-care services".
In real-time it may make so much sense to scale up the occupational therapies, give these highly skilled therapists full scope for all their skills, include music and art therapy, all done by qualified therapists, and with physiotherapy for the wear and tear etc
Cognitive Behaviour Therapists might be a little ashamed if asked to publicly displace provision for the occupational health of the bodies in question and on a national scale swamping their OWN field giving other fields nary a look in.
Their professional body (British Psychological Society) needs to agree a protocol with those of the other trades attending to the Save Britain campaign, we are but a small island.
Other small islands are being flooded already, we will have more than the doorstepping spectre of mass unemployment and destitution to worry about when the sea rises
I gather that Occupational Health Medicine, like Sports and Vetinary Medicines can provide knowledge and insights on atypical symptoms not usually recognised when seen in other clinics eg occupational hazards like sensitisation to traces of a substance due to long exposure at work.
As often happens with hazards, scant attention is available for such hazards in the home and when the workplace is someone else's home.
Some jobs require OH assessments before they can be allocated or reasonably adjusted for a disability, or resumed after absence, or medically retired from with entitled disability income.
Some jobs require regular re-assessment for medical fitness and/or regular testing investigation for toxic hazards at work.
The OH assessor can be biased in favour of the employer, less likely to be biased in favour of the employee unless paid to mount their application, or else truly independent. Either way anyone who disagrees can be called a softie or draconian. In dispute its a higly unpleasant arena
It seems to be one of those jobs its is cheaper to pay a substitute to do when expanding the market. So in the UK some iffy international corporations collared the new market in "Advisory" welfare assessment for work-capacity and work-rehab.
These corps employed a motley assortment of lesser qualified beings and gave them biasing bonuses to strike people out of life-support which cull provided the bulk-funding Govt (UK) with customer satisfaction (in return for good custom)
It would be so much more effective to stop with the bulk-funded subsidy and let the the consumer choose their provider
In the UK it looks like the self-identified Physician Associates are a new, ambitious and misleading profession, self-identified by themselves or by their cheapskate employers.
Once ganged up they all made some exaggerated claims but were headed off at the pass by the Membership of a Royal College of Physicians, after the lethal boo-boos began.
The RCP Executive, being too thick, got headed off too.
I gather the Physician Associates can do well within strict limits, are fine if not over-challenged, need medical supervison for that, and also operate in the USA.
I doubt they can provide a cheapo substitute for the Doctors of Occupational Health Medicine who do the occupational risk assessments, but I am sure the corps don't mind if they do
Truly there is no profit in a Govt welfare contract - nor in a privatised national utility contract - providing the essential commodities of life affordably for everyone in need. Its just an excuse to trade assets and borrow lots of dosh.
benefits to styoicalsymptoms sorts Medicine
On the other hand there are many things an Occupational Health Therapist may be employed to do outside of the "integrated" heath and community-care services".
In real-time it may make so much sense to scale up the occupational therapies, give these highly skilled therapists full scope for all their skills, include music and art therapy, all done by qualified therapists, and with physiotherapy for the wear and tear etc
Cognitive Behaviour Therapists might be a little ashamed if asked to publicly displace provision for the occupational health of the bodies in question and on a national scale swamping their OWN field giving other fields nary a look in.
Their professional body (British Psychological Society) needs to agree a protocol with those of the other trades attending to the Save Britain campaign, we are but a small island.
Other small islands are being flooded already, we will have more than the doorstepping spectre of mass unemployment and destitution to worry about when the sea rises
This is no time for hogging the trough. The Faculty of Occupational Health does not sound like the professional body of the Occupational Therapists (OTs)
Is it another conglomerated health-advisory assessor agency moving out of its own sector to feast on the unemployed rather than help keep them in work ? ?
Like the profiteering contractors doing the work-capacity assessments.
HOW DID THIS
BECOME THIS
I DON'T KNOW, ASK mR rILEY
White Paper on biggest reforms to employment support for a generation published today, backed by £240 million investment
THANKYOU
Jobcentres transformed across Great Britain and every young person to have access to an apprenticeship, quality training and education opportunities
ABOUT TIME. BRILLIANT, WILL THAT BE A 6-MONTH , A 2YR , OR A 4YR APRENTICESHIP
HAVE YOU FOUND A FEW THOUSAND BREXITBRITISH BUILDERS YET - OR SUNK ALL THE BOATS
THE TRADE ONLY JUST CAUGHT UP WITH EACH DEFLATED HOME-OWNER'S POSTPONED PERSONAL REPAIR-AND-MAINTAIN PROGRAM IN TIME FOR THE EMERGENCY CALL-OUTS TO EASE OFF IN TIME FOR A XMAS BREAK FOR REAL ON A NATIONAL SCALE SUCH IS THE DEFLATION OF RAMPANT INFLATUON
Mental health support to be expanded and extra capacity deployed to reduce waiting lists in areas with highest levels of inactivity
AH YES WELL ... NEAT ... HOW KIND THE SOUND .... I DON'T SUPPOSE THE POST-PANDEMIC RESeARCH FUNDING IS ALSO DEDICATED TO SOME BACK-TO-WORK PROGRAM IN DISGUISE ... PLEASE RE-DEDICATE TO SCIENCE, TA
the pot just gets bigger and bigger, avid, oi-oi-oi the NHS waiting list does not map onto the DWP unemployment register nor vanish with it, how dare you shout out that i am slightly mentally disturbed and need a small behavioural modification to get back to work slipped invisibly in under long-term-conditions, surely a masterpiece, and you gutted the NHS further for this ?
spend is on CBT not on ME / CFS, ps is this jobs for BACme or jobs for PwME
Measures announced in White Paper will fuel growth as Government rebuilds Britain in a decade of national renewal
THIS IS SO TRUE NO 2 WAYS ABOUT IT PREPARE FOR THE TEETHING PROBLEMS OF RADICAL INADVERTENCE STORMING IN STOLE THE SHOW ..... DO OR DIE....RENEW THE FIRST NATION
THANKYOU
Jobcentres transformed across Great Britain and every young person to have access to an apprenticeship, quality training and education opportunities
ABOUT TIME. BRILLIANT, WILL THAT BE A 6-MONTH , A 2YR , OR A 4YR APRENTICESHIP
HAVE YOU FOUND A FEW THOUSAND BREXITBRITISH BUILDERS YET - OR SUNK ALL THE BOATS
THE TRADE ONLY JUST CAUGHT UP WITH EACH DEFLATED HOME-OWNER'S POSTPONED PERSONAL REPAIR-AND-MAINTAIN PROGRAM IN TIME FOR THE EMERGENCY CALL-OUTS TO EASE OFF IN TIME FOR A XMAS BREAK FOR REAL ON A NATIONAL SCALE SUCH IS THE DEFLATION OF RAMPANT INFLATUON
Mental health support to be expanded and extra capacity deployed to reduce waiting lists in areas with highest levels of inactivity
AH YES WELL ... NEAT ... HOW KIND THE SOUND .... I DON'T SUPPOSE THE POST-PANDEMIC RESeARCH FUNDING IS ALSO DEDICATED TO SOME BACK-TO-WORK PROGRAM IN DISGUISE ... PLEASE RE-DEDICATE TO SCIENCE, TA
the pot just gets bigger and bigger, avid, oi-oi-oi the NHS waiting list does not map onto the DWP unemployment register nor vanish with it, how dare you shout out that i am slightly mentally disturbed and need a small behavioural modification to get back to work slipped invisibly in under long-term-conditions, surely a masterpiece, and you gutted the NHS further for this ?
spend is on CBT not on ME / CFS, ps is this jobs for BACme or jobs for PwME
Measures announced in White Paper will fuel growth as Government rebuilds Britain in a decade of national renewal
THIS IS SO TRUE NO 2 WAYS ABOUT IT PREPARE FOR THE TEETHING PROBLEMS OF RADICAL INADVERTENCE STORMING IN STOLE THE SHOW ..... DO OR DIE....RENEW THE FIRST NATION
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How we do things around here MyWayMyReality the WorkWays for delivery of purpose in ME/CFS Delivery Plan UK LetsDoIt
Long Term Conditions are included with the minor perturbances of life. Major mental illness won't get a look in since its budget was diverted to scale up the Talking Therapy. The Royal COllege of Psychiatrists got quite upset about that. The police took up the slack but were not consulted. And the Municipal Bourough Councils also rebelled - but by then the take-down was under way
(And the Municipal Bourough Councils also rebelled - but by then the take-down was under way)
Support in Long Term Conditions used to be advertised as a district nursing service except no-one paid the service for it so it never happened except on paper. I was so excited. It was so exciting. At last I thought. So looOoong promised. Here it comes....
I am bamboozled by the muddle ...
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