Trial By Error: CBT and Irritable Bowel Syndrome

[Sean]

Stress is the default explanation for everything, and always has been, according to stress experts.

The general populace are delicate little flowers who need these very important experts to explain our lives to us and how to live them.

See the recent update on BACME guidelines, for a specific example.

 

[Sly Saint]

Bayer signs commercialisation deal for Mahana’s digital therapeutics range

Mahana Therapeutics has announced it has entered a distribution and marketing partnership with the Consumer Health division of Bayer, opening commercialisation avenues for the company’s digital therapeutics range.

Mahana said in a statement announcing the news that the partnership is worth millions, though the exact financials of the deal has not been disclosed.

In May this year, Bayer targeted precision health with the launch of a new business unit – the Consumer Health Division. The formation of the group was tasked with focusing on digital solutions, with Bayer saying it will partner with digital health providers and startups to deliver evidence-based precision health products to market.

Mahana is known for its prescription digital therapeutic for irritable bowel syndrome. Mahana IBS, which gained US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) clearance for mobile devices in 2021, is a three-month digital course that uses cognitive behavioural therapy to manage and reduce IBS symptoms.

Bayer signs commercialisation deal for Mahana’s digital therapeutics range (msn.com)

 

[NelliePledge]

Thus proving there’s no difference between these corporate purveyors of CBT online as a panacea and ‘big Pharma’

CBT deflection tactics used just as antidepressant deflection tactics. Any old product as long as the patient can be fobbed off with it

 

[rvallee]

I can't find a better thread for this. I got curious today about what happened to this company, and after almost going bankrupt, parts of it were sold in May of this year to a similar company called Nerva, which claims to do "Gut directed hypnotherapy & CBT for IBS" and seems much bigger, or so they claim. They boast of having 11K+ physicians sending clients their way and to have served 300K+.

Nerva Completes Mahana Therapeutics Acquisition to Expand Access to Digital Therapies for IBS

Bringing together two evidence-based brain-gut therapies, this acquisition supports a more accessible, integrated approach to IBS care delivery.

www.nervahealth.com

Nerva says this about their program:

The Nerva program is backed by a randomized controlled trial showing that 81% of participants experience a clinically meaningful improvement in IBS symptom management.

A randomized trial. One. Not linked. Even on their website they don't link to it, just an image. That's just how the pros do it. Link to discussion of the study: https://www.s4me.info/threads/compa...ble-bowel-syndrome-2024-anderson-et-al.47815/.

Truly, all of this stuff is as if someone said "NFTs, but for health care". It's amazing how anyone can raise money for such obvious scams.

 

[rvallee]

Just in case you're interested in what happened to them, too: @dave30th. I can't find any information about the sale price, there's only ever a mention of how Mahana (more like MAHAna, amirite?) somehow raised $80M in venture capital funding before having to either sell or fold.

 

[bobbler]

Just in case you're interested in what happened to them, too: @dave30th. I can't find any information about the sale price, there's only ever a mention of how Mahana (more like MAHAna, amirite?) somehow raised $80M in venture capital funding before having to either sell or fold.

It would be very interesting if there were people who could do a ‘follow the money’ on these things

To check where ‘buyers’ turn out to not be those who believe it might either work or sell (the books don’t add up) but ‘entities’ wanting such fops to exist just to con the legal system by claiming ‘you can’t prove it doesn’t work’ so that they can refuse to offer other support they’d be obligated to etc

 

[rvallee]

It would be very interesting if there were people who could do a ‘follow the money’ on these things

To check where ‘buyers’ turn out to not be those who believe it might either work or sell (the books don’t add up) but ‘entities’ wanting such fops to exist just to con the legal system by claiming ‘you can’t prove it doesn’t work’ so that they can refuse to offer other support they’d be obligated to etc

Given the investments and hype for what is generally called "digital therapeutics", there must be someone doing at least some level of financial reporting for investors. But they'd likely be more on the positive for now, at least until all the early projects crash down. Sadly because it's even more popular in the medical profession, they will help prop it up longer than it should. This is simply not a viable business, at best it's just part of someone's investment portfolio in the "very long shot but if it pays off it would be a great bonus" category, until people get the message anyway and the whole thing crashes down like beanie babies and NFTs, just so much worse in every single way.