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"Tired all the Time" (academic book) by Marie Thomas

Discussion in 'PsychoSocial ME/CFS News' started by Dolphin, Aug 14, 2018.

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  1. Dolphin

    Dolphin Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    From: Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks

     
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    I noticed that also. Many of the citations seem quite old. Though I think I saw NICE 2018 and a 2015 article by Crawley. (Not that those indicate anything of course. ;) Pardon my attitude.)
     
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    And NICE is really 2007, it was just accessed in 2018.
     
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    Yes, I noted that 2009 date too.

    I'm sure it's just a coincidence that this is when some of the more serious biomedical researchers waded in and rolled up their sleeves.

    Reading her intro, I think her heart is in the right place; but if she got her PhD in the early 2000s her ideas of the illness may well be fixed, even if she is compassionate.
     
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    Posts beyond this one were merged from thread "Tired all the time / Book by Marie Thomas (2018)"

    The first pages of the chapters can be read there.

    This is the beguinning of the 3d chapter:
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    I'm wondering what "rehab courses run by @Action for M.E. " she's refering to.
     
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    Probably the Westcare week-long residential programme. Action for ME took over Westcare. Within a few years they had stopped offering their courses.
     
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    Well, I'm certainly not buying this to see what it's like. £50. No thank you.

    And what the f*** is 'multi-convergent therapy'?
     
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    At only 92 pages, the price is even more astonishing.
    The Table of contents suggests it is all about CFS.
     
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    Haven't read the rest of the chapter but that abstract is very out of date, the CMO recommendations are presumably from the report done in 2002(?)
     
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    Maybe she had one of them 'abundance' LP treatments by that Parker fellow and yelled 'STOP!' at her empty bank account a lot and this is how her healing process expresses itself.
     
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    To answer my own question, Multiconvergent therapy is a mix of CBT and GET.
    Here's a paper from 2006 about a tiny trial done by the author of this book and others.

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/14733140600711955
    The effect of Multi Convergent Therapy on the psychopathology, mood and performance of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome patients: A preliminary study by Marie Thomas et al.
    You can see a list of her other publications here. She doesn't seem to have published anything on CFS since 2009.
    https://www.bathspa.ac.uk/our-people/marie-thomas/
     
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    I have e-mailed Dr Thomas and invited her to send me a free review copy so I can review it for this forum.
     
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    Any idea what the "performance tasks" were anybody. Doubt it will be anything objective.
     
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    prancing around with a shopping bag maybe(?)
     
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    Posts relating to this article (Measurements of Recovery and Predictors of Outcome in an Untreated CFS Sample (2019) Thomas et al.) have been moved to a new thread.
     
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