The troubled history of psychiatry

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  1. alktipping

    alktipping Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    there is precious little actual science done by the psychiatric profession people seem to forget it was created from pseudo intellectuals talking bs /philosophy .
     
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    Charcot was initially what passed for a scientist in the nineteenth century. Then he found mesmerism, and went very whacky. He taught at least two founding fathers of psychiatry, one of which was Fraud, sorry, Freud. A Fraudian slip I guess. ;) Yes, it all started as philosophy, but then so did science, it was at one time called natural philosophy. The problem is science created rules for enquiry that kind of work, most of the time, but psychiatry far too often has research that falls below acceptable scientific standards. Their argument seems to be that they get a free pass because psychiatry is a difficult area to research in.
     
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    Which should of course mean that all their conclusions are probable rather than certain.

    They also should be looking for multiple explanations for the outcomes their trials produce. Eg Benefits being linked to worse outcomes. We understand the least healthy will be awarded most benefits - they conclude that giving benefits hinders recovery! (Sorry no reference easily to hand.)

    In my experience, many psych trials are simply promoted as conclusive evidence of a favoured hypothesis.
     
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    In psychopsychiatry there seems to be a tendency to produce studies to support their hypothesis, rather than test their hypothesis. In most of science this was abandoned by about 1960 or so, and was disappearing decades earlier. Psychopsychiatry could also use objective outcome measures ... this is difficult, but not impossible.
     
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    Article from 2013 in the Guardian

    Psychiatrists: the drug pushers
    Will Self

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/aug/03/will-self-psychiatrist-drug-medication
     
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    Challenging Stigma: Should Psychiatrists Disclose Their Own Mental Illness? - Psychiatry Advisor

    https://www.psychiatryadvisor.com/h...chiatrists-disclose-their-own-mental-illness/
     
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    There are researchers discovering that people can sometimes reduce the severity of their mental illnesses using good nutrition as a treatment - improve their diet and treat them with vitamins and minerals and people start to feel a whole lot better. Ketogenic diets have been helpful in many cases of epilepsy since the 1920s, so is it surprising that it might help other problems in the brain? I think vast numbers of people in the US and Europe are over-fed and under-nourished because they eat too much junk food.

    Title : Nutritional Therapy in the Treatment of Mental Disorders

    Link : https://www.socialworktoday.com/news/enews_0218_1.shtml
     
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