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The role of low-grade inflammation [...] in ME/CFS (planned study) Andreasson et al

Discussion in 'PsychoSocial ME/CFS Research' started by mango, Dec 6, 2019.

  1. mango

    mango Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    The role of low-grade inflammation for the progress of disease in patients with myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome ME/CFS

    Anna Andreasson, Martin Jonsjö, Linda Holmström.

    Original title in Swedish (as stated in the ethical approval application): Betydelsen av låggradig inflammation för symtoms förekomst, grad och utveckling i Myalgisk Encefalomyelit/Kroniskt trötthetssyndrom.

    https://www.stressforskning.su.se/o...eltagare-till-forskningsstudie-sökes-1.434261
     
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  2. mango

    mango Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    From the ethical approval application:

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    mango Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    More from the ethical approval application:

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    (Edited to remove duplicates, sorry!)
     
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    Sickness behavior.

    :arghh:
     
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    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I'm very dubious of this. The list of other studies listed in comment #4 does not indicate even basic understanding of ME and the reliance on psychometric questionnaire is entirely superfluous, suggests typical FND crap trying to present cherry-picked correlations as significant, because science 101 is overrated, I guess.

    There is some language that seem relevant at first glance but then that's basically been the "innovation" at the center of FND: psychosomatic "medicine" that pretends it's not using the language of science but incompetently and only to "prove" predetermined conclusions. Probably best to pass and recommend against participation. Enough coddling of pointless fishing expeditions.

    I'd much rather have actual competent people who don't bother wasting parts of a study on nonsense. Irrelevant questionnaires have already proven to be utterly useless and only add a bunch of noise. It's been done to death. Enough of this. It's not yet science if you can't measure things reliably. Devise competent measurements or go home.
     
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    I think the intention is to see whether any specific cytokines are correlated with scores of their shiny new "Sickness Behaviour" questionnaire.

    Personally, I'm a bit bored of cytokine studies, as cytokines haven't been found to be useful biomarkers for any illness, except the cytokine release syndrome (sometimes known as cytokine storm). Cytokines aren't really meant to spill over into the blood (where they are mostly useless), and so much cytokine activity during infections for example, goes undetected.
    Aside from the longitudinal aspect, there is little innovation. Perhaps we'll see a replication of increased TGF-Beta over several time periods though.
     
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    I agree. I believe this is part of their efforts to try and subgroup patients by combining psychological and biological data; an intent they have previously stated in, for example, research plans submitted to the Ethical Review Authority.

    In their ACT research plan (2015) it says that the aim of evaluating symptoms in relation to psychological, neuroimmunological and endocrinological factors is to define what patient groups wiil have the best effect of ACT, and that the goal is to improve mental health, physical function (including the ability to work) and quality of life for adults with CFS.
     
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    Their web page was apparently updated in March, a Q&A has been added. Here's one of the answers:
    https://www.stressforskning.su.se/om-oss/press-nyheter/nyheter/deltagare-till-forskningsstudie-sökes-1.434261#Frågor och svar

    There's still no info about why a psychological department is doing a study like this (heavily framed as studying "the physiological causes of ME/CFS"). In the Q&A there's this wee bit at the end:
    and this:
    I can't help wondering what treatments the Stress Research Institute have in mind... Their own version of "ACT" (gradually increase activity, managing irrational fears etc) or maybe CBT? I really wish they were more transparent about the models they are using...
     
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