The Independent - What are the symptoms of ME and how is it treated? May 2019

Sly Saint

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Pretty awful article imo.
Includes quotes from SC AfME, and the MEA making the psych vs physical point.
Also links to MERUK and the CDC.

Very muddled mish mash.

The NHS states that treatment for the long-term illness is available in the UK, which includes cognitive behavioural therapy; medication to ease symptoms such as pain, sleeping issues and nausea; or a structured exercise programme.

However, the NHS adds that not all people diagnosed with the condition will recover completely.

Not the best kind of 'awareness raising'.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...gue-syndrome-symptoms-treatment-a8903161.html
 
The article draws attention to how the ME Association's website on the controversy is problematic: https://www.meassociation.org.uk/about/what-is-mecfs/

There's a lack of meaningful details and it will encourage journalists to write unhelpful articles like this imo.

@Russell Fleming - is there any way that could be updated? Or maybe even the 'controversy' section removed?

Focussing on the psychological/physical aspect without providing any explanation of the problems here risks making patients look bad imo.
 
I agree this from mea website isn’t helpful. It is also out of date, it includes CFIDS as a name, who uses that now? But doesn’t mention SEID which I think is sometimes used in the states, media at least. It is also surprising in the what-Is ME/CFS section, no mention of PEM.

Controversy
ME/CFS has attracted more than its fair share of controversy. Initially, and for many years, there was a debate as to whether it was actually an illness at all. Although the situation is still not perfect, many influential bodies, (The World Health Organisation, the Department of Social Security, the Department of Health, the Royal Colleges of Physicians, Psychiatrists and General Practitioners amongst them) are now in agreement that it is real.

Two major questions now occupy the minds of the people involved – these questions are: “What is it?” and “What is to be done about it?”

While there is a degree of consensus on the different things which can trigger ME/CFS, what then causes it to become chronic has become a topic of hot debate. Loosely, views are split into two schools of thought: one which favours ‘psychiatric’ or ‘behavioural’ reasons and the other (supported by The ME Association) which argues ‘physical’ reasons.There is also an argument which proposes that no such distinction should be made. What also seems possible is that the illness currently defined as ‘Chronic Fatigue Syndrome’ is actually a number of different conditions, all characterised by similar symptoms. (A ‘syndrome’ characterises an illness by its symptoms, not by the underlying disease process.)

The second point, ‘What is to be done about it?’ attracts equally heated debate. Until more information is known, there will remain a wide range of views on how people can be helped. Research into causes, treatment methods and cures continues. Treatment is often aimed at reducing symptoms and can encompass a range of ‘mainstream’ and ‘complementary’ methods, ranging through drugs, homoeopathy, behavioural therapies, acupuncture, diet changes and beyond.
 
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What a pile of tripe might as well have been written 5 years ago. Some criticise MEAction at times but compared to this the messaging for MillionsMissing is spot on. I am fairly supportive of MEAssociation but I refuse to be involved with any material that has the its real it’s physical slogan. As for AFME it is now 9 months since they supposedly had their road to Damascus moment about behavioural approach and despite employing a number of staff they still haven’t managed to review and update their web content and booklets. I described AFME as a chocolate teapot today also enlightened a couple of folks about PACE involvement. I will not stop criticising them until they stop meriting it.
 
The Independent article is also dreadfully boring. My eyes glazed over and I couldn't be bothered to finish reading it, and I care a lot about ME/CFS.

Perhaps the boringness is a good thing, the average reader isn't likely to even get to the CBT and structured exercise recommendations.
 
ME Association said:
Treatment is often aimed at reducing symptoms and can encompass a range of ‘mainstream’ and ‘complementary’ methods, ranging through drugs, homoeopathy, behavioural therapies, acupuncture, diet changes and beyond.
I'm not sure whether to be very disappointed that the MEA seems to be recommending homeopathy and acupuncture or pleased that it considers behavioural therapies to line up between homeopathy and acupuncture.
 
The Independent article is also dreadfully boring. My eyes glazed over and I couldn't be bothered to finish reading it, and I care a lot about ME/CFS.

Perhaps the boringness is a good thing, the average reader isn't likely to even get to the CBT and structured exercise recommendations.
Hey, the SMC did boast that most newspapers outsourced science reporting to them. And they suck even worse than that so... could have been worse.

Maybe it wasn't a good idea to have an obviously political "charity" dominate so much science communication. Which is extremely ironic considering the alleged reason it was created.

Seriously the SMC needs to be investigated yesterday, this is, and I believe this is the proper technical term, whack.
 
I'm not sure whether to be very disappointed that the MEA seems to be recommending homeopathy and acupuncture or pleased that it considers behavioural therapies to line up between homeopathy and acupuncture.
Well, alternative medicine is alternative medicine so it's pretty fair.

The difference being this thing called "evidence" following this other weird thing called the "scientific method", which is clearly a huge mystery to the psychosocial ideologues.
 
Hey, the SMC did boast that most newspapers outsourced science reporting to them. And they suck even worse than that so... could have been worse.

Maybe it wasn't a good idea to have an obviously political "charity" dominate so much science communication. Which is extremely ironic considering the alleged reason it was created.

Seriously the SMC needs to be investigated yesterday, this is, and I believe this is the proper technical term, whack.
This is where ME missed the boat again. A once a year opportunity to gain mainstream coverage and there is no coordinated statement on behalf of PWME; numerous soundbites of slightly contradictory information that can turn people off / reinforce stereotypes.
This is where Valerie Elliot Smith's idea of a single PR representative body would make a world of difference.
 
i found the multitude of adverts too distracting...well at least it distracted me away from the very dull ‘I’ve got to do a school essay so what can I cobble together from google’ content that they seem to think is journalism.

Very underwhelming must try harder D+
The Independent website is a navigate. I hate reading things on their site, even if the Guardian turned me off years ago.
 
Perhaps the boringness is a good thing, the average reader isn't likely to even get to the CBT and structured exercise recommendations.

Oh, I missed that completely! :wtf: After the first few lines my mind just glazed over and nothing went in. :yawn: Had to turn off adblocker to read it too - wish I hadn't bothered now. And the number of ads was just incredible - makes it impossible to read, which is prob why I missed the CBT and exercise recommendations. :asleep:
 
So, somewhere between "no one" and "all people"-1 then.
About as valid as "some cancers spontaneously heal by themselves". Correct, but it's meaningless as an argument to advocate to end all cancer research and hand out cancer patients some self-help "tough shit" books instead.

The casual indifference to millions of ruined lives from medical professionals is absurd and terrifying. Something's really wrong with the culture.
 
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