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The Guardian: Now disabled people face a kind of internment. Just ask Edith

Discussion in 'Work, Finances and Disability Insurance' started by Andy, May 12, 2018.

  1. Andy

    Andy Committee Member & Outreach

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    Proof that the Guardian cares, as long as you have the acceptable (to them) illnesses.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/10/disabled-people-internment-care
     
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  2. Trish

    Trish Moderator Staff Member

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    Heartbreaking story. And all because the care agencies can't find enough workers.

    Simple solution - pay them a decent wage and give them proper job security. But that requires the government to fund social care properly.

    I use care workers from a care agency and the turnover in staff is huge - I pay a lot more per half hour visit than the care worker gets - the rest presumably goes in office and office staff costs, recruitment and training costs (they get 2 days training) and profits for the private company that runs it.

    It's a hugely important and responsible job. My carer yesterday says some of her clients are in their nineties and have been sent home from hospital only 48 hours after surgery such as hip replacements.
     
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  3. Andy

    Andy Committee Member & Outreach

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    Don't disagree with anything that you say, social care should in no way be subject to the whims of the market and the desire for a company to make "adequate" profits.
     
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    adreno Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Yeah. That's what you get when you monetize care.
     
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    Esther12 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Barry Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Sounds like the makings for a FOI request.
     
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    Luther Blissett Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    The DWP is the most frustrating, obstinate and spiteful org to make a FOI request to. The last set of data we got about this, they produced it in a way to make it impossible to compare the data with the general population.
     
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    Snowdrop Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Immediately my mind went to #SomethingToHide
     
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  9. Luther Blissett

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    Yup. We strongly suspect that they are hiding information because of the number of people who died within 6 months of being declared 'fit to work'.

    (The request was for the numbers who died within 6 weeks of the Assessment.)

    Source
     
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  10. Connector

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    I was wondering if Edith noted in the following article was:

    (a) allowed to supplement the cost for her care assistants from her own wages;
    (b) the company she works for was allowed to supplement the cost for her care assistants as an employee benefit;
    (c) her parents were allowed to supplement the cost for their daughter's care assistants;
    (d) was allowed to run her own accounting firm from a "care home" who would have care assistants as part of their full-time staff;
    (e) if there was a company which is part of Purple Space Ltd. https://www.purplespace.org
    that was looking for a chartered accountant that would be prepared to supplement the cost for her care assistants;
    (f) if Disability Rights UK https://www.disabilityrightsuk.org/ knew of a company or non-profit organization that was looking for a chartered accountant that would be prepared to supplement the cost for her care assistants;
    (g) if EvenBreak http://www.evenbreak.co.uk/ knew of a company that was looking for a chartered accountant that would be prepared to supplement the cost for her care assistants;
    (h) if My Plus Student's club https://myplusstudentsclub.com/ knew of a company that was looking for a chartered accountant that would be prepared to supplement the cost of her care assistants;
    (i) if Frances Ryan https://twitter.com/drfrancesryan?lang=en knew of a company or organization that would be prepared to supplement the cost of her care assistants;
    (j) if Business Disability International https://www.businessdisabilityinternational.org/ knew of a company or organization that would be prepared to supplement the cost of her care assistants;
    (k) if Disabled Entrepreneurs UK http://www.disabledentrepreneurs.co.uk/ knew of a company or organization that would be prepared to supplement the cost of her care assistants;
    (l) if ICAEW
    https://events.icaew.com/pd/10075/i...roPanel&utm_medium=display&utm_campaign=ICAEW
    knew of a company or organization that would be prepared to supplement the cost of her care assistants
    (m) if the members of Science for Me knew of a company or organization that would be prepared to supplement the cost of her care assistants; and
    (n) if The Association of Disabled Professionals https://www.adp.org.uk/ knew of a company or organization that would be prepared to supplement the cost of her care assistants?


    Now disabled people face a kind of internment. Just ask Edith

    (2) For your information and consideration.
    Sincerely,
    Connector
     
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  11. Andy

    Andy Committee Member & Outreach

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    Welcome to the forum Connector.

    Well, I think the vast majority of those questions would have to be asked of Edith herself, I don't really see how we would be able to answer them definitively. However I think most of your questions can be summed up as "could Edith, or someone on her behalf, employ more care staff?", which I would imagine potentially could happen but naturally depends if she was to have enough disposable income - anybody employing her is likely, I would have thought, to simply deduct anything they pay out in employing care staff from her salary, so whether Edith or her employer pays, the net result is the same.
     
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  12. Trish

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    Hi, @Connector.

    Thank you for all that detailed information - it may be of use to some of our members.

    I think in the case described in the article the problem was not funding, but the availability of carers - there is a shortage of people willing to work for care agencies in some parts of the UK.

    If you think this information might be of use to the individual described in the article you could contact the newspaper that carried the article and ask them to pass on the information to her.
     

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