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The association between adolescent well-being and digital technology use (2019) Orben et al.

Discussion in 'Health News and Research unrelated to ME/CFS' started by Cheshire, Jan 14, 2019 at 4:37 PM.

  1. Cheshire

    Cheshire Moderator Staff Member

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    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-018-0506-1

    This twitter thread explains how data have been distorted to fit the preconceived views of the authors of the primary studies:


    A few tweets:


     
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    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Step 21496495944057 in the millennia-old "the youth are all wrong" struggle, aka the "get off my lawn" model.

    It's really looking like pretty much all psychological research is cherry-picked and bias-driven. Not too much of it or most of it, nearly all of it.
     
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    MEMarge Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    So does this mean that clinics treating youngsters with ME, will now stop threatening them with social workers because they are spending too much time on their phones/other screens?
     
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    Maybe if they eat too much potatoes?
     
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    Are we the first generation that has been so vicious in our contempt and scorn for the following generation? Having benefited from free university education which virtually guaranteed a good job, being able to get on the housing ladder, having a good pension to look forward to, and using all the plastic bags I felt like, it doesn't feel quite right to pour scorn on the following generation who don't have any of those things and have spent 10 years of their life under austerity because we fucked up, plus have to start their working lives heavily in debt to receive a crap education which guarantees them a job in a call centre if they're lucky. Slagging off millenials doesn't do us any credit, and going on about screen time detracts from a lot of other issues we should be thinking about.

    I teach millenials every Monday and they are absolutely fine, and if we had grown up like them we'd be just like them. They can eat all the avocado they like for all I care.

    Except last Monday one of them really was an absolute fucking snowflake.
     
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    Probably not. As a member of the 'teenager' and then 'hippie' generation born in the years after the second world war, the whole rock music, 'free love' and the pill, etc. generation were very much looked at askance by my parents generation who had been through the war and life was serious and you were expected to be grown up and sensible all the time, at least in my experience.
     
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    The phenomenon of an older generation complaining about the following one goes back to Antiquity:

    http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20...ple-have-always-complained-about-young-adults
     
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    Yes but normally the older generation have made a better world for the younger generation, so they are entitled to be resentful, jealous and moan a bit. We have made a worse world for the millenials and are now sticking the boot in and trying to blame them by pretending it's all about screen time, gap years, beards and lumberjack shirts. It just doesn't seem a very mature approach. Maybe it's because our generation never had to grow up and take responsibility.

    But what do I know. I'm just an old man sitting on the sofa muttering grumpily to himself. Old men have always sat thinking moodily, I think I'm coming into my golden age.
     
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    Best line of this song - "Old men sit and think"



    Why doesn't anyone listen to music like that any more?
     
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