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The “scandal” of the PACE trial for CFS/ME, BLB Solicitors

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS News' started by Indigophoton, Apr 25, 2018.

  1. Indigophoton

    Indigophoton Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    A short piece by a firm of personal injury solicitors presumably seeing the possibility of legal action where patients have been harmed:
    https://www.blbchronicpain.co.uk/news/scandal-pace-trial-cfs/
     
  2. Indigophoton

    Indigophoton Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    One of the solicitors tweeted a link to their article to Michael Sharpe,

    :rofl:
     
  3. Allele

    Allele Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    omg, is it christmas already?:whistle:

    also, i sincerely hope someone is archiving all those tweets.
     
  4. Estherbot

    Estherbot Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Wonder if Michael Sharpe will threaten the solicitors with libel?
     
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    ScottTriGuy Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Doing a little happy dance. (Okay, only in my head.)
     
  6. Esther12

    Esther12 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Generally, it's not the person whose behaviour is being judged that gets to decide whether they're a part of a scandal or not.

    It's like Wessely's “OK folks, nothing to see here, move along please.”

    Who do they think they're fooling?
     
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    Estherbot Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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  8. Indigophoton

    Indigophoton Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Sharpe is re-iterating that there is no scandal, while the solicitors are being pointed to @dave30th's posts on Virology blog,



     
  9. Alvin

    Alvin Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Now we are talking real consequences
     
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  10. Sbag

    Sbag Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    They also have another article on their site called "Fibromyalgia, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and others are essentially one and the same condition" which has the following section :

    "Psychological history

    Psychological issues are accepted as an important factor in these conditions and there is a clear overlap with psychiatric ‘somatisation disorders’. In particular there is an association with depression, anxiety and adverse early life events.

    Whilst there is a wide spectrum, doctors believe that in a ‘typical’ case there will be a history of early life stressors (bereavement, bullying, mental, physical or sexual abuse); onset of depression or anxiety during adolescence (when it appears that the brain is becoming hard-wired) and during adolescence and early adult life, the sufferer repeatedly reports unexplained medical symptoms that become intrusive."

    They don't seem quite as understanding in this one.
     
  11. Sean

    Sean Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Sad that this might be what it takes though, isn't it.
     
  12. alktipping

    alktipping Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    not getting anywhere small claims solicitors fishing for clients to rip of does not equate to a realistic chance of the pace trial fraudsters ever seeing the inside of a courtroom as defendants .considering the extensive support in their narrative from the british establishment who for all we know had their fingers very deep in this particular pie. considering they used these results to justify their attacks on the chronically sick not just people suffering from m e .
     
  13. Samuel

    Samuel Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    to me, individual lawsuits are not appropriately real consequences.

    prison terms would be one example of real consequences. alongside real consequences, massive retractions and genuinely truth-seeking official and unofficial investigations are needed. [not to mention science, services, and many more things.]
     
  14. alktipping

    alktipping Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    have you seen how long it takes in England just to get a full inquiry started. by the time government accepted the need for such an inquiry many of those responsible would be dead or able to claim no memory of such events due to old age . private legal action is only slightly quicker when the culprits have access to the best lawyers undoubtedly paid for by the taxpayer. our legal system is very perverse when it comes to financial aid.
     
  15. petrichor

    petrichor Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I don't think it's productive to unnecessarily diagnose people with personality disorders. You know this forum is public?
     
  16. Samuel

    Samuel Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    on a forum for cdc employees, we were once castigated by a bigot for setting up google alerts. i'm more inclined to say that google alerts [and competitors] are useful tools for activism [not merely for persecution] and they are not an indicator of deviance.
     
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    Proof it's the BPS mob driving researchers out of the field (or this country at least) and not patients.
     
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    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I've, increasingly, been of the opinion that a legal route has, in some way, to be sought here.

    I watch the reactions of the BPS crowd and I sense, at the minimum, a touch of backtracking on the part of some of them.
     
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