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Supplements! Please Help. Sunshine Salt?

Discussion in 'Other: Methylation; B12; Glutathione; GcMAF' started by Squeezy, Sep 25, 2018.

  1. Squeezy

    Squeezy Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Oh dear lord. Replacing the supplements I had from living abroad. :banghead: It took me a DAY to research and buy just the right, (hopefully), and at the right price, Complete B Vitamin pill last week. :ill:

    I've yet to finish finding the following, and would HUGELY appreciate any recommendations. :thumbsup:

    Magnesium Malate or Magnesium Glycinate? I've tried both. Anyone feel better with Malate? (meant to be good for ME. Not noticed myself)

    Fish oil (VegEpa? Krill Oil?) :thumbsdown:

    Vitamin D drops

    Sublingual B12

    Magnesium Ascorbate (for Vitamin C)

    Multi Minerals (so hard! They all have too much calcium. I want, ideally NO calcium or magnesium! Take it separately...)

    So this fortified salt from Dr Myhill looks jolly good to me:

    https://www.salesatdrmyhill.co.uk/sunshine-salt-300-g-392-p.asp#

    Has anyone tried it?

    Thank you!

    Squeezy
     
  2. Arnie Pye

    Arnie Pye Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Different magnesium supplements have different properties, so what is ideal for one person may not be the best choice for someone else :

    https://www.naturalnews.com/046401_magnesium_dietary_supplements_nutrient_absorption.html

    Personally I take magnesium citrate because it works as a very mild laxative which is usually an advantage for me. If I develop diarrhoea (quite rare for me these days, but it can happen) then I just skip the magnesium citrate for a couple of days.
     
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    Squeezy Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Very good point @Arnie Pye, thank you. I'm regular, luckily. :) I used to take Mag Malate because it was recommended among PWME for ME. But then I was told by my neurologist to take high dose magnesium for my migraines, and I'd have needed 5 massive Mag Malates to get it! Ugh.

    So I switched to Mag Glycinate as the best absorbed and best for brains. And good for sleep. And only TWO 1/2 massive pills. ;)
     
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  4. Trish

    Trish Moderator Staff Member

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    I think the sunshine salt is mostly sodium chloride, ie 'salt' and has a range of minerals added. The problem I see with it is it's based on the assumption that you have POTS or low blood pressure so need to top up your salt intake as well as making sure you get enough other minerals.
     
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    Ah, well luckily for me I have a strange low salt issue, possibly as a medication side effect. I take pinches of sea salt throughout the day to stave off migraines!

    And it also stops me running to the loo constantly - I must have been peeing away all my electrolytes. I'm now retaining them. Now that I write it, my foggy brain is remembering that's part of why it helps with the migraines :banghead:

    So I could replace my pretty pink Himalyan salt with this. (I'm crashed, sorry for any non-sense).
     
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    My last mag supplement was mag malate, I found it useful enough to take most days, sometimes several times a day. When that ran out I couldn't find the original brand in the size that was economic so I decided to try one by thorne research, a mixture of malate and citrate.

    This does absolutely nothing positive for me, it may even have a small negative effect.

    So my conclusion is the correct type of mag supplement, for you, is important.
     
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    Arnie Pye Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I've seen quite a few earnest writers saying that sea salt or Himalayan salt contains traces of every possible mineral, and this is why it is so healthy!

    My response to this nonsense is to wonder how much arsenic, bismuth, antimony, lead, cadmium, and mercury the salt contains. Although I do use sea salt it is because of the flavour rather than anything else it might contain.
     
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    I’ve recently trialled magnesium citrate in my water bottle. I add I scoop (5g) to 1.5litres and drink this slowly over the day (gives 375mg of magnesium). I top up with Epsom salt bath at the weekend. That’s obviously just what works for me at this present time.

    I read somewhere that the body only absorbs a small amount of magnesium at a time and regulates/limits intake meaning that tablets are much less efficient than taking it slowly and diluted as an electrolyte drink.

    Seems to be working better than the tablets, but this is just a very approximate “feeling”. Don’t want to talk about bowel movements ...sorry it’s just my rule :p
     
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    Well mag citrate IS renowned for having that effect! :laugh: I get 100g more magnesium than you do, via tablet at night... Bit of a waste if I'm not absorbing it. I've never had THAT effect ;)

    I'm meant to have this horrible electrolyte drink throughout the day, because I have issues, but it's RANK. Nothing conceals the taste. Is mag citrate yuck?
     
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    Not usually. My main problem with mag cit was the size of the tablets I bought - they were obviously modelled on pills for horses - they were massive! And I think that is a common problem with mag cit (and possibly other magnesium supplements for all I know). So when I last bought it I bought a powder called "Natural Calm". It comes in various sizes of tub, a few different flavours, as well as unflavoured. I bought the unflavoured. Is it nice? No. Is it nasty? No - I've taken supplements that tasted a lot worse. You could probably mix the stuff with flavoured squash with a flavour of your choice. I like the fact that I can adjust the dose I take. With the tablets that was a difficult option.

    I've never come across it in capsule form so I don't know if that is an option or not.

    Edit : Ooh - not magnesium citrate, but a form of magnesium in liquid form :



    I have absolutely no idea what it is like though.

    Edit 2 : The reviews say it tastes disgusting.
     
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  11. Wonko

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    Magnesium citrate powder tastes like soluble aspirin to me, whilst I would imagine it's a rare person who actually likes the taste, most could drink it, at need, as long as there was a banana involved.

    No one would drink it without a need, that's why we have beer ;) (okay, that's why other people have beer :grumpy:)
     
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    Not really at the dose I use, it’s clearly there but quite subtle I’m used to it now. I suppose you could use squash to mask the taste of it if you found it was really horrible.
     
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    I think it's supposed to be for keto, because you lose salt on that diet. Though I suppose it could help OI too.

    I've used it. It tastes ever so slightly different to normal salt, but I could never manage to use a teaspoon per day, so I just used it to 'top-up' my multivitamin.

    It's also yellow, with hints of green-black, so some people don't like the colour. You can also make it yourself (Myhill has a recipe somewhere).
     
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    I also use sea salt (and I like the flavor) and for me the reason is that this is the easiest way to get salt without dextrose or other additives.
     
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    Of course, this didn’t answer the OP question whether some particular sea salt is any good.
    Am sorry, I haven’t tried that one.

    I buy a Thorne multivitamin/multimineral for vitamins and minerals. Some absorb better when there’s some particular ratio of something else (zinc needs a bit of copper, for instance, but one doesn’t want much copper). So that’s my personal strategy.

    Of course most dieticians say just to eat lots of kinds of healthy food because it’s not even known what all vitamins and minerals we might need, but I figure that’s problematic for ill people on two counts.

    One, maybe we don’t absorb everything like healthy people do.

    Two, maybe we have allergies and sensitivities and have trouble maintaining a healthy diet.

    So whatever one chooses to do, I think it’s smart to try to add nutrients however seems good.
     
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    Thank you @WillowJ for your comments about salt and vitamins.

    It does seem likely that we don't absorb nutrients the way healthy people do. And I agree entirely about allergies and sensitivities limiting diet. The healthy sometimes don't understand it isn't a matter of just eating an orange :(

    I wish I could take all my vitamins and minerals in a sublingual tablet, the way I do my B12! Just absorb straight into my bloodstream, bypassing my questionable digestive system!

    I want to work on improving the state of my microbiome - gut health seems to be key to overall health for everyone.
     
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    Thank you @adambeyoncelowe for telling me more about Sunshine Salt :) I'm glad to hear the taste isn't much affected by the additions to it. Having just said in my comment to WillowJ, that I wish I could take all my supplements sublingually, this might actually be the next best thing!

    Right now I'm holding a pinch of sea salt in my mouth and letting it dissolve - and hopefully absorb into my mucous membranes. No one else around me can take salt like this without choking, so please only try with a few grains, if you do it! :wtf:

    I'm very deficient, because of medication, and any type of salt just melts on my tongue. No drink required. I use 2 or 3 teaspoons daily, depending on weather and activity - and my sodium blood tests are normal.
     
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    Perhaps vitamin patches might be an option.
    I' m looking into them for two reasons
    Bypass gut
    Reduce number of pills

    From parent' s forum , B12 and multi vitamin seem ri work well for most eho gave trued them.
     
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    Thanks @Amw66. I'll look them up!
     
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    :bag: @Trish thank you so much for picking up my mistake so quickly - I'm glad I posted and made such a fuss, because now you've put my mind at ease and I can get some! :thumbsup:

    :party::party::party:
     
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