"Subacute fatigue in primary care – two sides of the story" (corresponding author: Moss-Morris) 2019

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  1. Dolphin

    Dolphin Senior Member (Voting Rights)

    Open Access: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/bjhp.12361
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  2. duncan

    duncan Senior Member (Voting Rights)

    Nothing says scientific rigor like "telephone interviews". And less than 20, even better.
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  3. Jonathan Edwards

    Jonathan Edwards Senior Member (Voting Rights)

    London, UK
    In short: GPs are not much cop at telling patients they have a BPS illness.
    (Us with blue cardigans do it much better of course.)
  4. pteropus

    pteropus Senior Member (Voting Rights)

    if we replace 'fatigue' with 'cough', 'itch', etc - this study remains equally meaningless,
    because a common symptom can have a multitude of different biomedical causes.

    do UK doctors still do differential diagnosis - or is that superceded by a BPS pamphlet,
    and being sent home to think positive ?
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  5. Snowdrop

    Snowdrop Senior Member (Voting Rights)

    More useless fun and frivolity from RM-M via SLaM, KCL, and NIHR. Again with the negative test results mean psychological attribution. This idea needs to be put down.

    The main point of note I'm beginning to think is that it didn't cost much to do.
    And can be massaged to mean just about anything you want.

    I think what needs to happen is a better understanding of money allocation and it's real or imagined utility.
    I wonder if it is real savings in the short run to psychologise fatigue or if that's an illusion. Certainly I think in the long term it cannot hold.

    I think this is the main argument that matters to those who hold the purse for allocating money to those who then fund this sort of thing. The main concern of places like SLaM is of course continued existence and growth and making what they do seem like it's highly reputable.
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  6. NelliePledge

    NelliePledge Moderator Staff Member

    UK West Midlands
    M-M is a heartsink researcher just like Chalder

    (and pretty much anyone from Bath)
  7. NelliePledge

    NelliePledge Moderator Staff Member

    UK West Midlands
    Nice one Sly. I read this and immediately thought you meant there was one of the authors of the paper (called Mary Berry) from Bath then got to the cake bit and it registered #slooowwwwbrainday
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