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Silicone breast implants and depression, fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome in a rheumatology clinic population, 2019, Khoo et al

Discussion in 'Psychosomatic research - ME/CFS and Long Covid' started by Andy, Feb 9, 2019.

  1. Andy

    Andy Committee Member

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    Paywalled at https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10067-019-04447-y
     
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  2. Trish

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    The sample size (30 patients, 3 with CFS) and numbers with each condition seem far too small to draw any clear conclusions about prevalence of CFS in this group, let alone carry out any meaningful comparisons.

    And surely if you want to work out the prevalence of CFS in people with implants, you need to look at the population of people with implants, not the sub-population attending a rheumatology clinic.
     
  3. mariovitali

    mariovitali Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I think the following is interesting, looking through the "Liver Injury Hypothesis" for ME/CFS :


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    Link : https://aasldpubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/hep.29274
     
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    That's what the authors said.

    Silicone is an immune modulator, used in some vaccines as an adjuvant. So possibly silicone implants might trigger ME/CFS in a way similar to the reported vaccine-triggered ME/CFS cases?
     
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    I don't understand their controls. Isn't both systemic lupus and systemic scleroses known to have fatigue as a symptom?

    This could just as well thell us that SSc patients are less likely to get an additional CFS diagnosis?

    https://www.sruk.co.uk/scleroderma/scleroderma-and-your-body/understanding-and-managing-fatigue/
     

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