There are at least 2 other PEM questionnaires recently developed or in development. The MEA one by Sarah Tyson, which is as bad as the DSQ one, and thiss one:
Open Validation of the Vienna Post-Exertional Malaise Assessment Questionnaire (V-PEM-AQ) – Rob Wüst
I see 3 major problems with PEM questionnaires:
Conflation with fatiguability
Focus on symptoms rather than loss of function
Nonsensical additive scoring symptoms, eg scoring more if you tick more different triggers on their list, scoring more for a longer delay between trigger and PEM, scoring more if you tick more different symptoms, scores on questions without benchmarks, adding together scores on different aspects. The score depends largely on how the questionnaire designer has subdivided aspects, rather than on the disabling effects of PEM.
I think that this is a good starter list for an important discussion - I'd say thread but I think I'm also meaning something a bit more than that,
Sometimes I think that there aren't many people who are actually ill who are in a position to input because it takes experience of lots of different points in your life to realise that the threshold/committments+intrusions = amount of recovery needed
or rate of acceleration or change
and that new levels only slowly can be confirmed and kickedin as 'concrete' almost as a hindsight when you realise that an approx monthly routine that used to be OK now isn't just ending in feeling worse
this month (because maybe I had a cold or that 'thing' was more than I realised at the time) but no it's been 5months in a row now and I definitely am not just disorientated but that [disorientation] is because I'm not acknowledgeing eg a weekly shower and x things is now
too much.
or something similar, is going on,
and the symptoms which includes things which seem more obvious to laypersons as symptoms - the problematic people wanting us to list some approx ave of 'fatigue' as if it is a constant feast, but also pain, 'sleep' as if that is only relevant for being 'good or bad' rather than being a recovery mechanism as well as an indicator and so on.
but also fatiguability (how quickly we tire) and PEM (how much we get hit with payback for doing x, but also is cumulative) are sort of a combo of symptoms and functional 'snapshot in time' measures
BUt both of the above also are a combination of 'threshold/severity'
and current threshold/committments+intrusions
because that's what threshold is - and it's a moving feast even we can't easily measure until we get to a point many many months down the line where life might 'even out' in how much support and committments we have vs what we can do.
Then we have to explain it to any outsiders.
Although I have noticed the few who do speak to lots of people on a topic who are at different severities probably do, if they are of the right mind (ie not brainwashed into thinking fatigue but can get it is the aftermath thing), manage to start seeing the wood for the trees as they are sort of in a unique position to have that overview.
I understand it is probably a really complex illness for those relatively new, by ME/CFS standards, to it. And that the instinct is that we have to chop things up to more manageable chunks to find things to measure. Or some other strategy to find wood for trees.
But someone who has been at bottom end of severe's 5/10 for pain or sleep or PEM can't be assumed to be the same as someone who is mild's 5/10 but also can't be assumed not to be. So it all has to be focused on 'within person change' ie assume everyone only has their own scale, but also it is too much of a task even if that same person had been mild once and is now severe to be continually comparing it just as a cognitive task to do accurately - tho they might be able to do that once in a while for some very specific defined comparator situation.