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Psychological impact of fibromyalgia: current perspectives, 2019, Reyes Del Paso

Discussion in ''Conditions related to ME/CFS' news and research' started by Andy, Mar 16, 2019.

  1. Andy

    Andy Committee Member

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    Open access at https://www.dovepress.com/psycholog...spectives-peer-reviewed-fulltext-article-PRBM
     
    Andy, Mar 16, 2019
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  2. Hutan

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    I got to this point
    and was thinking in a sarcastic way 'gosh, could they have thrown any more negative assessments of people with fibromyalgia in to this summary?'.

    and then the abstract continued
    So, despite what had already seemed a pretty exhaustive list, they could.

    It would be interesting to go through the references given to support these statements to see if any are
    1. credible; and
    2. can't be accounted for as being the result of having a painful debilitating illness that many people regard as 'a whining over-reaction by neurotic perfectionists'.
     
    Hutan, Mar 16, 2019
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  3. Hutan

    Hutan Moderator Staff Member

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    there's more in the main body of the paper e.g. you don't have to go far to get these:

    make that a
    ...'a whining over-reaction by fat, lazy, and/or driven, neurotic perfectionists'
     
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  4. oldtimer

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    Just read the paper. What a hoot!!
     
    oldtimer, Mar 16, 2019
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  5. Peter Trewhitt

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    Isn't having the phrase "the psychological impact of fibromyalgia" in the title the very opposite of what the authors are doing in the article? Rather than looking at how their fibromyalgia impacts psychologically on the individual patient they seem to be asserting that a highly problematic psychology causes their fibromyalgia.

    If that was the case why are they not devising a personality test that will with 100% accuracy predict in advance who will get fibromyalgia. Presumably they believe that there are specific personality traits that are necessary and sufficient for fibromyalgia, so they need also to demonstrate that there is no one with fibromyalgia that does not have these traits.
     
    Peter Trewhitt, Mar 16, 2019
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    I thought of you @rvallee

    You're so right. This stuff is definitely on par with astrology (as you've posted elsewhere).

    I predict that authors of papers like this have a self-doubt gene malfunction. Cause that's a real thing you know.
     
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  7. DokaGirl

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    OK - I haven't read this paper yet - but from all your comments and quotations, it sounds like the authors are name calling - sticks and stones type stuff - as in all pwFM are flaming blankety blanks! Other than swearing, it seems like they've thrown every derogatory psychological term at pwFM.

    Are these authors venting?

    And, yet shock and surprise, "FMS patients perceive the illness as stigmatized". If your physician, or PS practitioner calls you a flaming what's it, then I would say there is a "tad" of stigma going on there.
     
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  8. shak8

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    Interesting review of current trends in thinking and research about fibro. Useful bibliography. But I am not sado-maso.

    Of course, it hurts my feelings to read about the emphasis on psychiatric illnesses but then, fibro can drive you mad (in so many ways: OCD, depression, bipolar). If there is some biological brain link, so be it.

    It doesn't follow that everyone with (and what it is called now but widespread chronic pain (+ 20 other symptoms) has a mental illness.
     
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  9. EnlightenMe

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    Well if one has all the physical issues associated with Fibro including poor sleep, high anxiety and cortisol...
    and no one understands you and the medical community is dismissive and friends and family don’t understand ...
    and you lose your ability to work, socially he active, and keep up with friends, household duties etc ...

    and take pride in your work and your finances are then dismal ...

    Then what psychological state do they expect us to be in? I mean really.

    Seems like they have the cart before the horse.
     
    EnlightenMe, Aug 23, 2019
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