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Potential causal factors of CFS/ME: a concise and systematic scoping review of factors researched, Larun et al, 2020

Discussion in 'BioMedical ME/CFS Research' started by John Mac, Dec 14, 2020.

  1. John Mac

    John Mac Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Not sure which forum to post this in given Lillebeth Larun is involved.

    https://translational-medicine.biom...5-6#:~:text=CFS/ME is a condition,13, 24, 28].
     
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    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I can't see the point of publishing this.

    This is just churn, publishing something simply to have their names on publications.
    Well, then, go away. We've been asking and lobbying, even raising most of the funds, for this for decades and this was systematically denied because of quacks like Larun. Go away. Shoo, shoo.
    Yes, we need real science. And, no, not for "fatigue". Go. Away.
     
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    Kalliope Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    For this sentence under "Background" they use CDC's Etiology and Pathophysiology. ME/CFS 2018 as source. I'd say that's a stretch and an interpretation.

    Rather than a single cause, it is likely that multiple biological, psychological and/or social factors may predispose, trigger, and maintain this condition
     
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    TigerLilea Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    There should be a forum for "Absolute Nonsense".
     
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    Kalliope Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    In our sample based on titles/abstracts, only 18% of studies reported which diagnostic criteria had been used.

    Does this mean that they actually don't read beyond the title and abstract?

    ETA:Yes, it does.. :(


    A clear limitation of this review is that we extracted data from titles/abstracts only, and not from full-texts. While this was a pragmatic decision based on resources available, reading full texts would likely have provided us more information about study size, region, and comparison groups. It is important for readers to note that much of the data we report as “missing” from the title/abstract level may have been reported in full text. As we did not aim to synthesize the results of the studies, we think that the data extracted from the titles/abstracts provides the intended descriptive overview of the categories of causal factors that have been studied, and the study designs that have been used.
     
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    Kalliope Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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  7. Jonathan Edwards

    Jonathan Edwards Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Well, it's one way to proclaim that you have no idea how science works.
    The last two sentences of the abstract do that nicely.
     
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    Kitty Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    ...and someone should invent a typeface that shows you need to read the thread title in Janey Godley's Glasgow accent.

    The Et's a' shite! thread.
     
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    Sean Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Why can't they just say 'we don't know'?
     
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    dave30th Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    It's a lie. They are taking the BPS formulation of the three Ps (predisposing, precipitating and perpetuating, which they have renamed a bit) and attributing it to the CDC. It's blatantly dishonest.
     
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    It's a bit awkward after having spent decades saying otherwise, nay, insisting that they not only know all about it but have actually solved it.
     

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