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Physical activity in a pandemic: A new treatment target for psychological therapy: Diamond and Waite June 2020

Discussion in 'Other health news and research' started by Sly Saint, Aug 22, 2020.

  1. Sly Saint

    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/papt.12294

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    paper was referenced here
    https://www.psych.ox.ac.uk/news/phy...ew-treatment-target-for-psychological-therapy
     
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  2. Sly Saint

    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Although I understand the rationale behind encouraging people to exercise during the pandemic there were a few things in this paper that jarred.

    really?

     
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    Psychological therapists can respond creatively

    That would seem to sum things up. Isn't that what they always do;)

    At least that seems to be what they do in Oxford.

    If anyone needed evidence that this is a department of pseudoscientific phoneys this will do.
     
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    Honestly this is starting to become as ridiculous as the decades of attempts at brainwashing. Or nearly Equilibrium level.

    The reasons why people do not exercise enough are not psychological, therefore psychology has no useful role to play here. Grow the F up over this, you cannot manipulate people into doing things, this is not how any of this works. It's infantile thinking.

    The main barriers are socioeconomic, with unaddressed health problems being a major aspect and for which psychology bears enormous blame. The cruel application of austerity politics in the last several decades, in addition to the ruthless application of psychosomatic ideology, have created societies that squeeze the life out of people to get maximize their productivity. People want to exercise but do not have the social or physical bandwidth. You cannot apply this with self-coaching, or coaching, or really anything that does not remove the actual barriers that actually exist independently of psychology.

    Seriously health psychology is the ultimate in drunk uncle oversimplistic thinking. The solution to complex problems is rarely simple, let alone so oversimplistic as to be exactly the type of answer you'd expect a child with no understanding of real life to give.

    Psychology would do well to turn its efforts on themselves, for a decade or two. Then do it once more for good measure.
     
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    In Australian almost-lockdown, when the only reason you're allowed out of the house is to "exercise", actually resulted in a temporary increase in physical activity, at least among a certain demographic.

    If you are locking people inside their houses (so to speak), you have to expect a temporary decline in physical activity - the deconditioning of which is not dramatic and can easily be reversed after lockdown is over.
     
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    [​IMG]

    In case some don't recognize this: it's Footloose, a movie where dancing is banned and this makes people crave dancing
     
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