OpenAi's new ChatGPT

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  1. SNT Gatchaman

    SNT Gatchaman Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    StackOverflow is the premier Q&A site for programmers. People ask "how do I achieve x?" and others respond. The community votes the answers up or down and generally this has worked very well for over a decade. Subject matter experts have their answers prominently displayed. Probably much of the AI "knowledge" in the programming arena has been derived from StackOverflow. 7 months ago they instituted Temporary policy: Generative AI (e.g., ChatGPT) is banned.

    Stack Overflow is a community built upon trust. The community trusts that users are submitting answers that reflect what they actually know to be accurate and that they and their peers have the knowledge and skill set to verify and validate those answers. The system relies on users to verify and validate contributions by other users with the tools we offer, including responsible use of upvotes and downvotes. Currently, contributions generated by GPT most often do not meet these standards and therefore are not contributing to a trustworthy environment. This trust is broken when users copy and paste information into answers without validating that the answer provided by GPT is correct, ensuring that the sources used in the answer are properly cited (a service GPT does not provide), and verifying that the answer provided by GPT clearly and concisely answers the question asked.

    Have to say there are parallels with BPS research.

    However, got to laugh at this answer someone posted, asking ChatGPT to sarcastically respond to this ban —

    Many of the comments are of the form: "Wow, this is frightening."
     
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  2. ME/CFS Skeptic

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    I think StackOverflow's took the right position. In my view, Chat GTP is very useful if you use it as a language model to help generate text or easy code, but not for things that require a deeper understanding or logic.

    I heard someone make the analogy with self-driving cars. The technology gets it right most of the time but there are still too many edge cases to safely implement it. It may be that throwing more data at it will not help solve these edge cases because some may have never happend before. A higher level of accuracy may only be achieved with new models that are based on logic and a conceptual understanding of the world.

    The same might be true for Chat GTP. Predicting the next word might not be good enough for many tasks and jobs. It could be that it will reach its limit and that more data hardly improves its accuracy. Could be wrong though. Will be interesting to see how this evolves.
     
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    Well, AI did learn everything from us, confidently saying something that is completely wrong is basically an art form with humans.

    And as SNT Gatchaman said, it's definitely not limited to Internet forums, there are entire disciplines and industries built on being confidently incorrect. It's not as if only using validated sources of information doesn't have truckloads of that.

    Sniff, it really has its father's ability to bullshit with complete confidence
     
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    I listened to the BBC Media show (available on IPlayer) today. It was about AI, and specifically ChatGPT. A cause of concern is that if it's given access to private information or sensitive company information for a task, it stores that information and makes it available when it's doing other tasks it's set by anyone else. So that information becomes effectively public information.

    It's going to be made available to companies in a form where information users feed into it for tasks is kept confidential to that company, but the charge is per person using it, not per company.

    It occurs to me that we on this forum need to be aware of this.

    First don't give it any of your own private information to work with, as it effectively becomes no longer private.

    Second, don't give it anything posted in the members only or private areas of the forum to work with unless you have clear permission from the individual whose post you want to put in ChatGPT.
     
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    Last week was a local business week and I went along to a seminar hosted by a self confessed tech nerd on AI.

    He is an eternal optimist and I do agree with him that we are at a transition point akin to before electricity and how it changed everything. He played down the negatives .

    I have a rare talent for being able to do things with tech that noone else seems to be able to ( not in a good way ). I definitely missed my vocation - should have been a user / tester ! So anything which simplifies things for me is a godsend .

    The seminar touched on different apps and how they were used in business . Using chat gpt to generate a tweet storm in seconds . From checking tone as well as spelling in grammarly, using midjourney and canva for marketing ( dodged the query re IP rights and copyright that is rife at moment), autopod for podcasts , beautiful AI for graphics . All useful , timesaving and interesting - could take a lot of spoons out of advocacy work ..

    There an app called seeing AI for visual impairment which will describe objects to people.

    It was combining apps which was interesting .
    Short YouTube videos can be done by giving chat gpt formatted questions, outputting data in a table, taking the table into Canva and using the YouTube template . Short videos are then auto generated with potential to edit in a matter of hours rather than a week. Definitely a gamechanger on multiple fronts .
     

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