1. Less than a week to support David Tuller's work. To donate click here.
    Dismiss Notice
  2. Guest, the 'News in Brief' for the week beginning 19th October 2020 is here.
    Dismiss Notice
  3. Welcome! To read the Core Purpose and Values of our forum, click here.
    Dismiss Notice

One Day Conference on clinical aspects of Functional Symptom Disorders: 11 September 2020

Discussion in 'PsychoSocial ME/CFS News' started by Sly Saint, Sep 6, 2020.

  1. Sly Saint

    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

    Messages:
    5,174
    Likes Received:
    42,972
    Location:
    UK
    Optimising engagement and outcomes for patients with Functional/Medically Unexplained Symptoms

    This conference will be delivered on Zoom.

    This event has been approved by The British Psychological Society for the purposes of Continuing Professional Development (CPD) and by the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health.

    https://www.ucl.ac.uk/child-health/...ents-functionalmedically-unexplained-symptoms
     
    MSEsperanza, Woolie, Simone and 6 others like this.
  2. Peter Trewhitt

    Peter Trewhitt Senior Member (Voting Rights)

    Messages:
    1,194
    Likes Received:
    11,830
    I note that the title implies that ‘functional‘ and ‘medically unexplained‘ are in some way equivalent or interchangeable.

    How many unevidenced assumptions are subsumed in this title? (Prizes for the correct answer to the nearest hundred)
     
  3. NelliePledge

    NelliePledge Moderator Staff Member

    Messages:
    6,342
    Likes Received:
    39,264
    Location:
    UK West Midlands
  4. Snowdrop

    Snowdrop Senior Member (Voting Rights)

    Messages:
    1,546
    Likes Received:
    10,252
    Wording error / typo

    Should read "Updates from the current eminence base"

    Learn the technique of "paltering and how to specifically apply it in clinical practice."* How to do it well so the patient has no idea.

    What is paltering?

    See here: https://psychcentral.com/news/2016/12/30/when-is-the-truth-a-lie/114487.html

    Paltering was honed and refined in the business world, picked up by politicians and now artfully crafted into a tool for BPS clinicians.
     
  5. Sly Saint

    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

    Messages:
    5,174
    Likes Received:
    42,972
    Location:
    UK
    as it is highly likely that this will soon include long-covid patients, I wonder what Prof Paul Garner would make of it?
     
  6. NelliePledge

    NelliePledge Moderator Staff Member

    Messages:
    6,342
    Likes Received:
    39,264
    Location:
    UK West Midlands
    Good point @Sly Saint i think he’s probably aware of the psychosomatic crowd I doubt he realises their training includes ‘paltering’
     
  7. dave30th

    dave30th Senior Member (Voting Rights)

    Messages:
    996
    Likes Received:
    14,755
    wow, it's the entire crew!!
     
    ladycatlover, EzzieD, Simone and 9 others like this.
  8. Jonathan Edwards

    Jonathan Edwards Senior Member (Voting Rights)

    Messages:
    7,589
    Likes Received:
    77,996
    If anyone at my old institution is reading, I am disappointed.
    This meeting is organised by UCL, or at least the Institute of Child Health Part and the department of psychiatry part of that. (Prof Heyman, whom I have never heard of).

    This is the 2nd London International One Day Conference on clinical aspects of Functional Symptom Disorders- following the success of our 1st conference in 2018. In 2020 we want to focus especially on aspects of communication and engagement which contribute to successful outcomes, and on the current evidence-base for effective intervention.

    Clearly the organisers either know something nobody else does or they are just making things up as usual.

    When I was practicing we did not have marketing meetings like this designed to help people sell their services. We didn't;t even have meetings 'telling people what to do'. We had meetings where the knowledge base was presented and delegates were expected to use that in a rational way. There is something very distasteful about this sort of selling and telling approach.

    I am surprised that Ross-Morris has not been given a slot. She is good at selling and telling.
     
  9. dave30th

    dave30th Senior Member (Voting Rights)

    Messages:
    996
    Likes Received:
    14,755
    she could discuss her and Chalder's bogus claims that online CBT is "effective" for treating IBS hen their own data show that it is not. And the stock options and other financial interests she has in the company marketing this product with fraudulent claims of success. As I've said, a big bunch of academic grifters.
     
  10. Jonathan Edwards

    Jonathan Edwards Senior Member (Voting Rights)

    Messages:
    7,589
    Likes Received:
    77,996
    Of course I meant Moss-Morris. But you know that. I was thinking of her video on Body Psychotherapy.
    I wonder if they are worried that knowing 'what to say' and 'what not to say' we can now make them all redundant and have a robot that says:

    "Really? Oh how awful!'
    'You poor soul'
    "You should say NO to that.'
    and so on.
     
  11. NelliePledge

    NelliePledge Moderator Staff Member

    Messages:
    6,342
    Likes Received:
    39,264
    Location:
    UK West Midlands
  12. Snowdrop

    Snowdrop Senior Member (Voting Rights)

    Messages:
    1,546
    Likes Received:
    10,252
    If they have stock options in that kind of clinic I doubt they'd care, seeing redundancy as a reward.
     
  13. Sly Saint

    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

    Messages:
    5,174
    Likes Received:
    42,972
    Location:
    UK
    Re Moss-Morris
    she is also editor of a journal:
    Health Psychology Review @healthpsychrev
    Health Psychology Review - An Official Journal of the European Health Psychology Society
    @EHPS_society
    -@ronamossmorris and @suzannecarrie, Editors

    https://twitter.com/healthpsychrev?lang=en
     
    ladycatlover, alktipping and MEMarge like this.
  14. Mithriel

    Mithriel Senior Member (Voting Rights)

    Messages:
    1,459
    Likes Received:
    11,740
    She is the leading expert in the new movement for maximising your health while having MS. With our experience I see it as a short step to people with MS being told it is their lifestyle which is making them worse not their disease, but they feel that it is a way to get control, as well as a "cure" for a lot of their ill health.
     
  15. Sly Saint

    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

    Messages:
    5,174
    Likes Received:
    42,972
    Location:
    UK
    see
    https://www.s4me.info/threads/how-a...diated-moderation-analysis-tc-rmm-2020.13786/
     
    ladycatlover and Mithriel like this.
  16. Woolie

    Woolie Committee member

    Messages:
    2,485
    Likes Received:
    16,024
    I see Mark Edwards has officially joined these ranks.

    Remember when we thought he might be the real deal? I think there's a lesson in that for all of us - keep that BS detector on high alert at all times.
     
  17. Woolie

    Woolie Committee member

    Messages:
    2,485
    Likes Received:
    16,024
    Interesting name here for Aussies on the forum:

     
    Sean and Trish like this.

Share This Page