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Medscape: Commentary - Psychotherapy Is 'The' Biological Treatment

Discussion in 'Health News and Research unrelated to ME/CFS' started by Andy, Mar 18, 2018.

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    Andy Committee Member & Outreach

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    Posting for the insight it provides into psychotherapists thinking.
    https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/893720
     
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    I find

    slightly more annoying than "dis-ease". And I find that very annoying.
     
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    Does anyone else find that opening sentence idiotic?

    Downhill from there, as far as I can see.

    Edit: Well, I guess I could say reading that article was biological. It irritated me, so it probably had a temporary biological effect in my brain. Fortunately I don't have a photographic memory, so the effect will soon be erased.
     
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    From a certain point of view, it is true, but the biology that can be theoretically influenced by psychotherapy is probably much more limited than what is typically claimed. Given the many wrong claims about psychotherapy supposedly having an effect on disease I think skepticism as default position is well justified.

    Are there high quality clinical trials that clearly show that the "active ingredient" in psychotherapy leads to biological changes?
     
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    It reads like bad science fiction.
     
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    I think the author needs a straitjacket and a sentence in a psychiatric hospital before he harms anyone.
     
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    I think the author needs to get a life.
    (as well as the other)
     
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    Then, why don't they treat diabetes with psychotherapy? Drop the insulin start cbt for diabetes.
     
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    Yes. I thought it was patently obvious it was idiotic.
     
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    A bit like the way bullshit is biological.
     
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    Shut down hospitals. Train more therapists. The only logical solution. :unsure:
     
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    So I'm now psychology proof? As I no longer seem to have an image based "image-ination"* the author would seem to suggest so.

    *one of a related set of cognitive functions that have recently disappeared and currently seem to be out for the count.

    I suppose there has to be an upside ;)
     
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    ....Yes, then the next step is to fire all of the human therapists, because they are too expensive, and use AI Therapy instead!
     
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    blue robot.jpg

    (Wearing the blue cardigan). 'I'm sorry, I didn't hear that. Please try again. Do you want CBT, or GET?'
     
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    I have a secret “girl crush” on Sophia! She was recently on the cover of Cosmo India! What’s not to like!

    BF7815A8-7095-4C73-8C55-2523C4C58E67.jpeg
     
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    I can't decide if it's more like "Altered States" (1980), where other modes of consciousness actually can rearrange your molecules...

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    ...or maybe it's more like a World of Pure Imagination.

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    But I always defer to a Higher Authority....

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    I must have very different tastes. I find that picture very, very creepy.
     
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    At least bullshit has observable matter.
     
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