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MDMA-assisted therapy for severe PTSD: a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled phase 3 study

Discussion in 'Other psychosomatic news and research' started by James Morris-Lent, May 10, 2021.

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  1. James Morris-Lent

    James Morris-Lent Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01336-3

    The buzz of the internet.

    Not to be a downer but this study should be considered unblinded (and uncontrolled) and has subjective outcomes.

    Also, everybody wants to talk about the MDMA but this study is more accurately about 'MDMA-enhanced (talk) therapy' which looks like something (some of) the authors made up and have been using (see THERAPIST MANUAL). I.e. this is not "CBT+MDMA vs. CBT+placebo" but "Our sweet MDMA-enhanced therapy we made up vs. Our sweet therapy but you actually didn't get the MDMA (LOL)"

    Anyway if people are serious about investigating psychedelic drugs for mental illnesses, it seems like investing in dose-response studies would be the play to get around the problem of blinding (and control). Also keep the data clean by not wrapping it up in whoevers' favorite hobby psychotherapy.


     
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    Milo Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    There's some MD in the replies saying you can mimic MDMA with low dose Adderall and cannabis and seriously where do these people get so confidently wrong to the point of saying absurd things like this? This is not even close to be true. As a sham placebo sure, to compare for no effect, but in no way would it be a convincing control, let alone be close enough to mimic the effects.

    Typical Howard, rules only matter in achieving the outcome he wants.
     

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