Long Covid in the media and social media 2023

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  1. rvallee

    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    We have circled back, and it circled us back to hell. It's very hard to put in context the magnitude of this failure, given how it was the lowest of hanging fruits to have ever hung from anything.

    It's such raw incompetence and complete failure of duty and ethics. I don't think that our civilization has seen professional failure of this magnitude in a century, maybe even beyond. And that includes the fact that most modern industries did not even exist back then.

    In business and politics? Lots and lots of comparable failure. But not from professionals, expertise and basic professionalism simply prevent failure of this size to happen in so many ways.
    https://twitter.com/user/status/1649177751553818625


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    A short article from a team in Canada:

     
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    Studies ? They quote a single anecdotal number at one clinic from early 2020. Whole thing reads like a clickbait promo for the author's (two are communications specialists) for their institution.
     
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    "In many health systems, GPs are gatekeepers to specialists and are considered trusted information sources".
     
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    TV2 has an article today about Long Covid researcher Arne Søraas who has sent several reports of concern to the Norwegian Institute of Public Health (FHI), but has not been heard. He does not agree with how they have gathered information about Long Covid in reports policies have been based on. He says the reports have not reflected the severity of long covid and that patients feel the institute is downplaying the illness.

    TV2: Toppforsker ut mot FHI - Opplever at sykdommen dysses ned
    google translation: Top researcher against FHI: - Feels that the disease is being suppressed
     
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    I hope Søraas speaks out more often going forward. I think there are more than a few who have been surprised at how they are met when they try to talk about long term effects. More people to experience (albeit to a lesser extent) what patients have been living with and talked about.
     
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    Long Covid Skepticism is a Slippery Slope

    The first question we ask about complex chronic illnesses shouldn’t be whether or not they’re real.


    https://conversationalist.org/2023/...-skepticism-chronic-illness-media-both-sides/

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    Why long COVID could be a ticking time bomb for public health

    Long COVID isn't novel: other viruses in history have had similar “long” arcs — with devastating repercussions

    https://www.salon.com/2023/04/24/long-parkinsons/

    My brain is not doing well today so no quotes.
     
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    No mention of ME.
     
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    Hmm, perhaps Ricky Gervais might like to read some history.
     
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    Not just RG, as according to my memory's SW is reputed to have said words to the effect that ME/CFS simply didn't exist in most places. That it was a condition only found in cultures like the UK.

    I also belive he specifically said it didn't exist in France. Which may be sophism, as while the name may be different, people In France occasionally chosing to speak French, the thing that is being named dies exist, no matter what name it is given.
     
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    It's really hard to understand how so many people, actual experts, listened to and read hundreds of such testimonies, presumably, and genuinely could not recognize any of the obvious patterns. This has been recorded for decades, all so much alike, all impossible to miss.

    And yet it was not just missed, but entirely dismissed. I saw this coming before most, and all I did is read the testimonies. I didn't even look for patterns, in fact I tried very hard not to see them, to falsify my assumptions. But they were simply far too obvious to miss.

    It's seriously very hard to be this incompetent, to fail so miserably while having all the perfect conditions to succeed. There are so many things and people who are supposed to act long before it ever gets this bad, every other profession has managed this. Medicine is old and it shows, it carries too much baggage from pre-modern times.
    https://twitter.com/user/status/1650910487557685274


    Lots more under the thread.
     
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    committee members noted “concern” as patients reported being unable to receive a correct diagnosis or proper treatment.

    They are not getting 'proper treatment' because there isn't any yet.
     
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    And in large part because of the refusal to properly record reality, which is fraudulent distortion as it creates the impression that the problem is far less significant than it is, when support and resources are always based on that record. It's a loop as fraudulent as a police district that simply stops recording a type of crime, then asserts that this type of crime has been eliminated in the area, which leads to stopping all measures to reduce or address this crime.

    Or a company that doesn't record workplace injuries, then claims they have no workplace injuries anymore and takes tax credits and other benefits as a result. This is blatantly fraudulent, there are supposed to be obligations, clearly only paper requirements, about recording illnesses.

    The loop is deliberate and it feeds on itself. And it will keep looping as long as they can get away with fraudulent misreporting of reality and everything that follows it.
     
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